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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77462
07/31/08 12:53 AM
07/31/08 12:53 AM
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Crook County, ILL
Mastershake340
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Are you comparing NOS samples to assembly line, factory issue parts? If so, you will find that assembly line metal parts were usually not coated or protected due to their immediate use in production. The NOS parts that could/would end up on a shelf for months at a time usually had some form of protective coating in anticipation of not being installed for long periods of time. I hope I was clear as to the parts you had access to years ago. Were they replacement NOS pieces or were they manufactured as assembly line parts?
Dave
If any of these have ever turned up as a "lunch box" type part, that is what I would like to see as it would settle this issue once in for all. To coat a bare metal part for protection because it isn't going to installed on a car coming down the assembly line, instead to go out and sit on a shelf as a replacement part makes all the sense in the world. However why would they have gone to the trouble of ecoating a raw casting prior to manufacture, just on parts that were destined to be replacement parts? It would have been far easier just to take a pallet of just assembled master cylinders that were slated to be replacement parts and spray a coating of paint on them for protection. That is what they did with all the disc brake Mopar cylinders.
E coating is significantly more expensive than painting. Also, since the casting is machined after the ecoating, surfaces such as the outlet facings, piston retainer screw boss face, and firewall side of the flange are machined and left raw metal, which of course is going to surface rust.
It just makes no sense that they would do this. And I worked in this industry and know firsthand that making ecoated parts for replacement and bare metal for assembly line would not be at all favorably viewed by the beancounters, QC, process engineers, industrial engineering or the actual workers in the assembly line.
Here is a picture of a 134th day of '68 dated example off a SW car. When I started to clean the surface rust away there was some ecoating left.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77468
08/01/08 04:11 PM
08/01/08 04:11 PM
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San Gabriel, CA 91775
rexus31
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San Gabriel, CA 91775
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Here is a sneak preview Dave.
Tease!
2007 Dodge Charger R/T, Road and Track Performance Group, Steel Blue
1965 Chrysler 300 Convertible, 383 4V, 727TF, Factory Air, Spanish Red
1964 Pontiac GTO, Tri-Power, 4 Speed, Grenadier Red
"What ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?" - Jules Winnfield
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: rexus31]
#77469
08/01/08 05:16 PM
08/01/08 05:16 PM
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NoVa
ebodyseast
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NoVa
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All of us at Moparts (most anyways  ) are wishing you the best of luck at the official unveiling of your '70 Challenger at the Nats. Those of us that can't attend  will be awaiting for your triumphant return. Break a leg guys!  -------------------------------------------------- "Time of your life...eh kid? ~ Risky Business
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77475
08/02/08 12:10 AM
08/02/08 12:10 AM
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N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
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Of course you think I'm crazy! I totally forgot to mention the simulated wood grain panels down the side of that baby. And to think I almost over looked that truly significant detail.
Dave, your are hallucinating, that's part of the original shipping crate that wasn't removed during dealer pre-deliver prep 
Good luck guys 
MikeR
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: MrNormsTA]
#77478
08/02/08 11:16 AM
08/02/08 11:16 AM
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USA
ECS
David Walden
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David Walden
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Can you post a pic of the Pinto so I can tell you the woodgrain isn't the right shade. 
Great post and looking forward to the Nats.
Rick.
Well....It looks like you were actually correct on this one Rick. I checked it out and the wood grain was in fact the left grain and not the right grain like I originally thought. Oh well. 
Hope to see you there.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: mopar346]
#77479
08/04/08 12:24 AM
08/04/08 12:24 AM
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USA
ECS
David Walden
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David Walden
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Anny front suspension pics yet? Please?
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Dave - Woah... until now I could only imagine that color combo - it is much better than my wildest dream! I always liked the looks of a White with Blue strpe on a GT350 - this way cooler (and a Mopar)! Dave 
