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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #77342
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Here are the caps that were delivered in the trunk. I will take a close up of the "regular" valve stem caps that came with the car from the assembly line.




Dave, I know this is a silly question, but... is this the correct packaging for these valve stem extensions? The reason why I ask is that I have some originals that are in a small envelope that has the typical Chrysler parts white and blue colors, and I have some NOS ones from recently, that are in the clear packaging as you show.

Thanks, Dan

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: sixpaktoogo] #77343
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Here are the caps that were delivered in the trunk. I will take a close up of the "regular" valve stem caps that came with the car from the assembly line.




Dave, I know this is a silly question, but... is this the correct packaging for these valve stem extensions? The reason why I ask is that I have some originals that are in a small envelope that has the typical Chrysler parts white and blue colors, and I have some NOS ones from recently, that are in the clear packaging as you show.

Thanks, Dan



The sets I have are in little sealed plastic bags.

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Here are the caps that were delivered in the trunk. I will take a close up of the "regular" valve stem caps that came with the car from the assembly line.




Dave, I know this is a silly question, but... is this the correct packaging for these valve stem extensions? The reason why I ask is that I have some originals that are in a small envelope that has the typical Chrysler parts white and blue colors, and I have some NOS ones from recently, that are in the clear packaging as you show.

Thanks, Dan




Hi Dan,
I wouldn't even begin to try and figure or comment on the various vendors that supplied these pieces to Chrysler. The set I have for my Cuda were in a small brown paper envelope with the part number. All I can tell you is that the ones I have (in the clear plastic packages) list the early part numbers so they are not a later style or revised version. A good rule of thumb is the earlier the part number, the older the issue of the part!

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Here are the caps that were delivered in the trunk. I will take a close up of the "regular" valve stem caps that came with the car from the assembly line.




Dave, I know this is a silly question, but... is this the correct packaging for these valve stem extensions? The reason why I ask is that I have some originals that are in a small envelope that has the typical Chrysler parts white and blue colors, and I have some NOS ones from recently, that are in the clear packaging as you show.

Thanks, Dan




Hi Dan,
I wouldn't even begin to try and figure or comment on the various vendors that supplied these pieces to Chrysler. The set I have for my Cuda were in a small brown paper envelope with the part number. All I can tell you is that the ones I have (in the clear plastic packages) list the early part numbers so they are not a later style or revised version. A good rule of thumb is the earlier the part number, the older the issue of the part!



The part # showing on the bags I have is 2660 315.

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: 70challrtse] #77346
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Golly I love reading this post. And I cant wait to see the cowl pic as well as any pics of the underneath side of the car.

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The part # showing on the bags I have is 2660 315.




That is a good part # for your car Ron! Anything above the 2900 series part numbers start to come into question.

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Golly I love reading this post. And I cant wait to see the cowl pic as well as any pics of the underneath side of the car.



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That looks great Dave. Unfortunately when I did mine, I went for the too neat look. I didn't fog it in. Also do you know where I can get a wiper motor with the correct finish on it? Mine is too shiney.

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Golly I love reading this post. And I cant wait to see the cowl pic as well as any pics of the underneath side of the car.




Not finished or detailed of course!

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Awesome!!

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Hi Ron,
We matched exactly what we found originally for the cowl black out. (Yes Alan, I have substantiating photos of the original paint pattern.) I had Jules find about 5 NOS wiper motor units and piece the best parts together. It was expensive but the outcome was a perfect NOS date coded original unit. Jules is definitely the go to guy for your wiper motor needs. His attention to detail and craftsmanship is unequaled in this area of expertise!

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Hi Ron,
We matched exactly what we found originally for the cowl black out. (Yes Alan, I have substantiating photos of the original paint pattern.) I had Jules find about 5 NOS units and piece the best parts together. It was expensive but the outcome was a perfect NOS date coded original unit. Jules is definitely the go to guy for your wiper motor needs. His attention to detail and craftsmanship is unequaled in this area of expertise!



He did my current one about six years ago. Maybe his resto process is different these days. Anyway I need a correct one.

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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #77354
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Hi Ron,
We matched exactly what we found originally for the cowl black out. (Yes Alan, I have substantiating photos of the original paint pattern.)



I know yours is correct and mine is wrong, but I'm a straight line kinda of guy. I'm thinking about redoing it though. Looking at your pics is a real humbling experience.

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Thank you very much Dave. This coming from a man whose attention to details is unmatched in today's hobby. Thanks again.
Ron , if you are referring to the motor is your post picture, I must say that is not one of my motors. I can tell one of my motors
from 10 feet away. Email me with your need.
While I am at posting ( been watching this thread quietly) I have to say that Dave should not only be commended for his efforts
on this Challenger but also with the infinite patience he has had with all the questions and picture requests. To date he has
been the only member that I know of that has had to substantiate all he is doing. Dave you certainly did not have to do that
but I thank you for your patience and efforts. The hobby will be much better for it.
Jules

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Dave your chassis picture just solved an argument I had with a fellow restorer about yellow transmission mounts...He stated they were only on Hemi cars but I put one on my 440+6 car and was told it was wrong.
Now I can show him this photo of a 440 4bbl car and prove he's wrong...
Thank you....


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Thank you very much Dave. This coming from a man whose attention to details is unmatched in today's hobby. Thanks again.
Ron , if you are referring to the motor is your post picture, I must say that is not one of my motors. I can tell one of my motors
from 10 feet away. Email me with your need.
While I am at posting ( been watching this thread quietly) I have to say that Dave should not only be commended for his efforts
on this Challenger but also with the infinite patience he has had with all the questions and picture requests. To date he has
been the only member that I know of that has had to substantiate all he is doing. Dave you certainly did not have to do that
but I thank you for your patience and efforts. The hobby will be much better for it.
Jules



My apologizes if my recollection was incorrect.
I'm sending you an email with what I need. Thanks.

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Hi Ron,
We matched exactly what we found originally for the cowl black out. (Yes Alan, I have substantiating photos of the original paint pattern.)



I know yours is correct and mine is wrong, but I'm a straight line kinda of guy. I'm thinking about redoing it though. Looking at your pics is a real humbling experience.




I like the neatness in your cars cowl Ron. Sure it may not be "correct" but in the average world alot of people would think the correct fogged in look would indeed look crude. I remember having my Chevelle and putting orange overspray on the exhaust manifolds and always hearing " you did such a nice job elsewhere, why in the world did you get in a rush and spray bomb the valve covers and put overspray all over the manifolds?" I suppose Im one of the guys who doesnt own a matching numbers car, so perhaps I will overrestore some areas with less attn to concours exactness. With all due respect to others who further the hobby by restoring a car to exact detail to originality of course. Still I look at cars such as the white one for reference in many ways.

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Hi Ron,
We matched exactly what we found originally for the cowl black out. (Yes Alan, I have substantiating photos of the original paint pattern.)



I know yours is correct and mine is wrong, but I'm a straight line kinda of guy. I'm thinking about redoing it though. Looking at your pics is a real humbling experience.




I like the neatness in your cars cowl Ron. Sure it may not be "correct" but in the average world alot of people would think the correct fogged in look would indeed look crude. I remember having my Chevelle and putting orange overspray on the exhaust manifolds and always hearing " you did such a nice job elsewhere, why in the world did you get in a rush and spray bomb the valve covers and put overspray all over the manifolds?" I suppose Im one of the guys who doesnt own a matching numbers car, so perhaps I will overrestore some areas with less attn to concours exactness. With all due respect to others who further the hobby by restoring a car to exact detail to originality of course. Still I look at cars such as the white one for reference in many ways.



Thanks, but I must say it is incongruous of me to strive, as best I can, to achieve a modicum of correctness and then finish certain components of the car- the cowl and the exhaust manifolds - to suit my personal tastes.

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Thank you Alan! All heavy duty mounts that have the word "yellow" molded into the rubber should exhibit this type of coloring. I have heard a few magazine writers that have said it is suppose to have just a yellow inspection mark but this is not what Steve and I found. Below are pictures showing the differences in the so called NOS ones that are currently being accepted for "real", as compared to the assembly line version we used. We did replace the rubber with one from an NOS replacement because they are still the same. I will go through the pictures I have to post an original yellow painted example. These were also dipped in paint. Notice the drip that came off the corner of the one in my Challenger!

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Notice the differences in an original assembly line trans mount and an NOS replacement part.

Original on left side!

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