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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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Dave, Here is a picture of an old NOS #230 hose I have and it has the "hump" in it. Very textured hose and no ink lines. What the heck does a #186 look like then? That # isn't even in the parts book for 70-71. My 70 Hemi "B" has the #86 on the broadcast sheet.
This is exactly what I have been trying to convey regarding these hoses. There are so few E Body A/C cars that have been restored to an OE level that this particular area has not been researched in years!? (How many OE, E Body, A/C cars are there?) For those who continue to post on this subject and completely ignore the absolute proof that continuously shows up....  I accept the facts and for me it is not a personal thing of needing to be the "big shot" or "right" about anything. That is left for those who allow opinions or incorrect assumptions to dictate THEIR reality. In the end the truth remains unaltered and their inability to comprehend and accept these facts doesn't change a thing.
Anyone ready to move on to the next screw up that Steve and I have done to this poor old Challenger? 
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/06/08 07:34 PM
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Anyone ready to move on to the next screw up that Steve and I have done to this poor old Challenger?
Please can we?.....where is the dead horse smiley when you need it.
Actually some good may come of this hose debate. We can translate it to Arabic and force the detainees at Guantanamo to read it. They will give up the whereabouts of Bin Laden in no time.
just kidding. This is an enlightening and informative thread. I am just getting disappointed that for the last several days, there hasn't been any new topics of discussion, despite many new posts.
MB
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: HPMike]
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07/06/08 10:38 PM
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I am just getting disappointed that for the last several days, there hasn't been any new topics of discussion, despite many new posts. MB
Here is a little deviation in the mix of things Mike. I know there was a post about this a few weeks ago but I thought I would interject the topic here in this thread. Below are the plastic surrounding instruments for the A/C controls and radio. I followed a process that takes away the usual screw ups. The first picture shows the white Hardened urethane paint that is applied to the raised letters with an airbrush. The silver border is also a bright reflective hardened urethane paint applied with the airbrush. After letting those hardened paints to set up over a three week period, I airbrushed Sems Trim Black lacquer over the entire surface. You have to use the hardened urethane on the white and silver so the next step is possible. After the trim black sets up take a thin T shirt material and stretch it very tight across your finger tip. Dip your finger tip in lacquer thinner and lightly pass over the raised letters and silver border until the black lacquer paint is removed. You get a beautiful finish and the lacquer thinner does not affect the white or silver urethane paint. Nice crisp edges and borders are the result. No white paint pencils or dabbing! No “too much” paint coming off the applicator tip and ruining the surrounding black areas! It is a backwards process that takes a while longer to complete but the finished product looks factory fresh and not homemade. (Click the attachments and the magnifying glass for clearer pictures.)
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/06/08 10:39 PM
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/06/08 10:42 PM
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/06/08 10:43 PM
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/07/08 12:49 AM
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I have a 70 340 Cuda, built in Los Angeles, that I am presently restoring. The K-member shows NO sign of ever being painted black!!! Looks to have been bare steel from day one. Car appears to have never been apart previously. Has anyone seen another like this? I know Resto Rick states he has, on his web page! Anyone else?
I have a 70 Challenger, that has a gray painted K-frame. Car was never apart before I got it, also had the part number stamped right on top of the gray paint. I'm sure it came that way, so I restored it the same way. Of course I get questioned all the time, but I have "before" pictures to back it up.
I have seen several grey painted K frames and transmission crossmembers with the part number as you state, but they were always service replacement parts.
Here is something that people should note. My shop is adjacent to a volume body shop that does dealership work for several dealers. At least once a week there is a NEW car there that is being repaired from damage in transit to the dealer or just from being moved around the lot. These cars are then sold as brand new, with the new owner unaware of the damage(unless it's very severe). And this is in 2008, I could only imagine that it was much worse during the time these cars were manufactured. So if I saw a grey K-frame, I would probably chalk that one up to previous damage, and not a mfg gaffe.
MB
I have to correct myself. After pressure washing my Cuda's K-frame, I found remnants of grey primer, and it has the part number on the top as well! It also has some black paint that looks to have been splashed on under part of the part number, as well as having what looks like a large white paint inspection mark on the top. None of this could be seen because of years of surface rust and dirt, Obviously the primer was VERY thin, as it is only visible in a few places, such as under the steering box area. Was it a replacement part, or was it built that way?? Who knows. How should I restore it - primer or black?
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/07/08 07:19 AM
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Interesting method and the end result looks very nice. Was the black 'background' of the A/C switch hosing originally painted though?
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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07/07/08 07:25 AM
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I'm not familar with 70 Challengers, the last one I restored was in 1993. But I've found on the 1971 cars that I've done that the surround trim on heater controls was some sort of chrome plating much like on A & B body dashes.  I spent three years looking for a nice original radio bezel where the chrome was still intacked for the Barrelcuda. I also enjoy the "reverse" paint method when working with the small details. It works great every time  Looking good 
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
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