Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake #770840
08/10/10 07:15 PM
08/10/10 07:15 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
74_360_Cuda Offline OP
enthusiast
74_360_Cuda  Offline OP
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
Hello,

I have ordered a Detroit Locker Truetracker However I received the standard Ratchet version.


Received:
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsSe...ocker/index.htm

Ordered:
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/ProductsSe...etrac/index.htm

Keeping in mind that I use my car only on street...

I chose the truetracker because it is less harsh and does not have clinking noises and does not wear... It also apply torque gradually to the wheel with most traction. I felt it would also be safer on wet roads.

I am wondering now if I should keep this one instead? Is it too agressive for street? In the instruction they claim that it is an imporved "L" version with smoother operation...

Need your opinion desperatly!

74 stock body Cuda
410 Stroker 500+ HP & TQ
3:91 gear
727 tranny 91/2 inch Dynamic TC
Sreet radial

Last edited by 74_360_Cuda; 08/10/10 09:45 PM.
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: 74_360_Cuda] #770841
08/10/10 07:30 PM
08/10/10 07:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,293
Rock Springs
Bob_Coomer Offline
master
Bob_Coomer  Offline
master

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 6,293
Rock Springs
Whats wrong with the OE suregrips? I like the OE Sure Grip My self, never tore one up, totally rebuild-able, and you can probably find a complete center section for the price of that locker alone..

Probably didnt like my advice..But have thought about returning that one...
Im going to go out on a limb here and say that 80%+ of the guys who run limited slips diff in the Mopar World do run the OE stuff, and this is because of more reasons I care to write about...
Good Luck


[color:"red"]65 Hemi Belvedere coming soon [/color]
[color:"#00FF00"]557" Indy engine 1.07 60ft 144mph in the 8th 2100 lbs package [/color]
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: 74_360_Cuda] #770842
08/10/10 07:34 PM
08/10/10 07:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,766
Central Valley, CA.
Quicksilver440 Offline
I Live Here
Quicksilver440  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,766
Central Valley, CA.
Just a clarification...a Detroit Locker and a Detroit Truetrac are two seperate products (This may have caused some of the confusion).

If you say Detroit Locker...then you are talking about the ratcheting version. The Truetrac is a limited slip (not a locker).

I have ran several lockers in jeeps and trucks....and it is a very strong rear. It is great for drag racing and 4x4's and street/strip cars even. But if yours is a street car and you want it to handle well around corners...then don't run a locker. They chirp the tires and are grabby. They also drive the car from the inside wheel around corners (this is opposie of normal) which is not good for handling purposes.

Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: Bob_Coomer] #770843
08/10/10 07:35 PM
08/10/10 07:35 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
74_360_Cuda Offline OP
enthusiast
74_360_Cuda  Offline OP
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
I had the cone type and was no good anymore...

Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: 74_360_Cuda] #770844
08/10/10 08:25 PM
08/10/10 08:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 123
Indiana
M
mt162 Offline
member
mt162  Offline
member
M

Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 123
Indiana
I run the detroit locker in my dana and I can't tell it's in there. I don't experience any of the problems others state. No noise, goes around corners fine and locks solid when I stomp on it.

Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: mt162] #770845
08/10/10 08:46 PM
08/10/10 08:46 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,715
closer to Canadian beer!
torkrules Offline
I'm neurotic
torkrules  Offline
I'm neurotic

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,715
closer to Canadian beer!
Quote:

I run the detroit locker in my dana and I can't tell it's in there. I don't experience any of the problems others state. No noise, goes around corners fine and locks solid when I stomp on it.




It's probably what they call a soft locker. I had one in a previous dana. It has a belville type spring washer in the makes it completely quite while still retaining the locker function

383man [Re: torkrules] #770846
08/10/10 09:09 PM
08/10/10 09:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
I have been running a Detroit Locker in my 63 for over 2 years. It works great for me but it will let the tires chirp sometimes on turns until it unlocks a wheel and it does have some clicking and clunking at times but nothing that bad. I myself love in my street/strip car but some may not if they dont like a bit of noise. Ron

Last edited by 383man; 08/10/10 09:10 PM.
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: torkrules] #770847
08/10/10 09:54 PM
08/10/10 09:54 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
74_360_Cuda Offline OP
enthusiast
74_360_Cuda  Offline OP
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
Quote:

Quote:

I run the detroit locker in my dana and I can't tell it's in there. I don't experience any of the problems others state. No noise, goes around corners fine and locks solid when I stomp on it.




It's probably what they call a soft locker. I had one in a previous dana. It has a belville type spring washer in the makes it completely quite while still retaining the locker function




I believe this is what I have. In the instruction they call it "Improved Detroit Locker". It says:

These units are designed for light trucks including 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive vehicles, and high performance passenger cars... Operates in the drive - coast mode without the familiar harsh feel and sound. Everyday driving is quieter and smoother, yet maximum traction is immediatly available

Also, in the exploded view there is indeed a disk spring (1, 3 or 4 pers side)

Last edited by 74_360_Cuda; 08/10/10 09:55 PM.
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: Quicksilver440] #770848
08/10/10 09:59 PM
08/10/10 09:59 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
74_360_Cuda Offline OP
enthusiast
74_360_Cuda  Offline OP
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
Quote:

Just a clarification...a Detroit Locker and a Detroit Truetrac are two seperate products (This may have caused some of the confusion).

If you say Detroit Locker...then you are talking about the ratcheting version. The Truetrac is a limited slip (not a locker).






Mancini description (cut & pasted): Detroit Locker Tru-Tracker Unit - 30 Spline


Last edited by 74_360_Cuda; 08/10/10 10:00 PM.
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: 74_360_Cuda] #770849
08/10/10 10:06 PM
08/10/10 10:06 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,880
USA
Ron Silva Offline
top fuel
Ron Silva  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,880
USA
I would definately send it back. A soft locker will definately not operate the same as the one you ordered. Lockers take a certain type driving style and they can be dangerous. For instance I stabbed the throttle once and got sideways and did not really have room to power out of it and then went copletely full lock and slid to a stop. I looked like an A55. The reason is it only engauges the inside tire on overrun and that just helped the car go sideways after I freaked and let off the gas. Also, I would not run a locker unless you have the BEST axles you can buy. That means Mark Williams High Torque axles. The reason is with a locker if you break an axle you will be making an abrupt turn if you are racing........right into the wall.

Send it back.

6133494-axlefrt.jpg (31 downloads)

SRT DEMON ONE SEAT
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: Ron Silva] #770850
08/10/10 10:25 PM
08/10/10 10:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
74_360_Cuda Offline OP
enthusiast
74_360_Cuda  Offline OP
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
OK, Thanks, this is what I needed to ear!

I guess the car won't be ready for my vacation starting next week unless Mancini would accept to rush the correct one overnight for me but I don't have much hope!

Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: 74_360_Cuda] #770851
08/10/10 10:53 PM
08/10/10 10:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,766
Central Valley, CA.
Quicksilver440 Offline
I Live Here
Quicksilver440  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 10,766
Central Valley, CA.
Quote:

Quote:

Just a clarification...a Detroit Locker and a Detroit Truetrac are two seperate products (This may have caused some of the confusion).

If you say Detroit Locker...then you are talking about the ratcheting version. The Truetrac is a limited slip (not a locker).






Mancini description (cut & pasted): Detroit Locker Tru-Tracker Unit - 30 Spline






Yep...it looks like they mislabled that...I personally love lockers....but not on cars that I want to do the twistys in. I even like them on the street....just not for a sports car that I would drive aggresively on the street with. Mostly because of the inside tire driving the car around corners.

Also....I've only used the regular (non-soft) Detroit locker and a lock-right and a no-spin locker. All 3 were noticable.

Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: Bob_Coomer] #770852
08/10/10 10:56 PM
08/10/10 10:56 PM
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 798
Houston TX
G
GregCon Offline
super stock
GregCon  Offline
super stock
G

Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 798
Houston TX
I had a Locker and I never heard an chirps or the tires squeaking .... but then you didn't hear much of anything over the engine.

Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: Ron Silva] #770853
09/23/10 09:18 AM
09/23/10 09:18 AM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
74_360_Cuda Offline OP
enthusiast
74_360_Cuda  Offline OP
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
I am glad to report that the truetrack is absolutly perfect on the street! The feeling is amazing! I don't know how to describe it properly but when you turn a corner you can feel that there is still traction on the inside tire but without trying to rip it appart... Just right!

And yes, it will smoke both tires on demand!
I absolutly recommend it!


Last edited by 74_360_Cuda; 10/02/10 02:45 AM.
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: 74_360_Cuda] #770854
09/23/10 03:05 PM
09/23/10 03:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,495
Minnesota
Hemi_Joel Offline
master
Hemi_Joel  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 7,495
Minnesota
I drove a detroit locker over 30,000 miles on the street behind 500 cubes and it is fine. Never spun out, never broke anything. So what if it clicks, it's a hot rod, not caddilac fleetwood broughm. Keep the rear tire pressures equalized, don't floor it in the corners, and you will be fine.


[img]http://i.imgur.com/boeexFms.jpg[/img]
31 Plymouth Coupe, 392 Hemi, T56 magnum
RS23J71
RS27J77
RP23J71
RO23J71
WM21J8A
I don't regret the things I've done. I only regret the things I didn't do.
"Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools because they have to say something. ~ Plato"
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: Hemi_Joel] #770855
09/23/10 03:14 PM
09/23/10 03:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,028
Tulsa OK
Bad340fish Offline
master
Bad340fish  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,028
Tulsa OK
My understanding is that all of the detroit lockers these days are the soft locker style.

Go with the locker, I ran a tru-trac in the front axle of my jeep for awhile and it was almost worthless. I now run lockers on both ends and I am much more happy. I am just using the drop in lockers so it clicks like the wheel on wheel of fortune when I make tight turns lol. But it will always have power to all four tires.

Sorry, I didn't see this was an update post enjoy!


68 Barracuda Formula S 340
Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: Bad340fish] #770856
09/23/10 03:40 PM
09/23/10 03:40 PM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,590
Indy
J
joshking440 Offline
Lunch is on me!
joshking440  Offline
Lunch is on me!
J

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,590
Indy
I just realized this was an update as well....

Re: Need Urgent advice - Detroit Locker shipping mistake [Re: joshking440] #770857
10/02/10 02:40 AM
10/02/10 02:40 AM
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada
74_360_Cuda Offline OP
enthusiast
74_360_Cuda  Offline OP
enthusiast

Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 387
Montreal PQ, Canada







Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1