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Bill Rolik

Dave,

You are slipping:

You don't have your entire broadcast sheet tatooed on your arm? I will let it slide this time!

I will check my available info at the warehouse tomorrow for the "65" hose.

Bill Rolik

Hi Bill,
Do you have ANY information on the correct upper hose for an A/C car? I can only find the original ones that have the hump that slopes back down towards the radiator inlet. What is the application for the ones with the hump? What is the purpose for that hump? That is the only style I have seen on original A/C cars. Even if you want to throw out the black Charger from the mix, what about the red Challenger? That car only had a couple of oil changes in it’s life. And what about the picture of the vehicle on the assembly line. What was the number for that particular style hose? It is shaped exactly like the one I found for an my A/C application. If the #257 was supposed to be for the A/C equipped cars, why do they all appear to be shaped different than the ones we are seeing on these non A/C cars? Are the people posting these pictures of the #257 absolutely sure that these hoses are the factory assembly line units? They could still appear to be original even if they were replaced 35 years ago. I know the same logic could be used for the cars I saw at Richard’s place but that assembly line photo hose is certainly correct.

Dave, et al.

One additional item:

The parts catalogs can be very goofy with many things, including hoses.

An example would be, once again in my own particular case, the 71 340.

For the inlet hose the book (1/72 Edition)reads as follows:

71 All except A-Body:

"w/318,340,360 W/A/Cond. W/Max.Cooling" 3462102

Where is the reference to non-A/C cars? There isn't one printed. Reading this, you would assume that the car was built without one, and the parts counterman and/or customer is on his own for a hose. FYI, non-A/C cars used the 3462102 as well.

Bill Rolik

My 70 (St. Louis built) V code Coronet R/T has the original heater hoses on it and they look unlike any that have been posted, unless I missed it. I will try to post a pic later.

MB

I will see what I can find out tomorrow.

Bill Rolik

Wild Bill,
You are doing the quick shuffle two step regarding my question. What number is the hose that I have been posting (on the original cars) with the "hump" that angles back down toward the radiator inlet? I am seeing it in A/C cars from 1968 thru 1971. I don't think the body style has anything to do with it as the engines were basically the same. Look at the picture Richard's red 71 Challenger hose that I posted earlier. Do you (or anyone) know what part number is assigned to that hose?

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Has it occurred to anyone that the incorrect hose has somehow become accepted over time as the correct one?

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Dave,, That is the case, as you know, with alot of these cars. Not just the Mopars but the other two also. There are things on my cars that people are going to say are wrong, but that's the way they came. And alot of people have cars like that. Then someone (or two) go and say that it can't be right because they THINK they know every answer to everything on every car.... so... the person doing the car goes and changes it on someone else's suggestion,,,, and,,, history gets changed once again.

One of my O.E.hoses.

The following quotes from this post sum up what the ICCA has been attempting to drive into the hobby relating to judging/ validating vehicles.

"I just have a difficult time understanding how some people have the ability to easily notice inconsistencies in some products but seem to be blind to the variations that exist within their own selections."

"Has it occurred to anyone that the incorrect hose has somehow become accepted over time as the correct one?"

"Do you see the confusion that is starting to developed here? Chryslers own parts application book seems to be contradicting what came on their own cars. How can anyone be absolutely sure what is correct unless you were lucky enough to still have the original hose when you took possession of your car?"

"That is the case, as you know, with alot of these cars. Not just the Mopars but the other two also. There are things on my cars that people are going to say are wrong, but that's the way they came. And a lot of people have cars like that. Then someone (or two) go and say that it can't be right because they THINK they know every answer to everything on every car.... so... the person doing the car goes and changes it on someone else's suggestion,,,, and,,, history gets changed once again."

I have seen thousands of vehicles that have variations from one to another. I'm sure we will all see many original variations as we begin to look closer at details that did not concern us in the past now that we are all doing our best to make our cars as accurate as possible.

Dave Wise
MMC / ICCA Detroit

I know this is from the wrong year but here is the rad hose on my Dads' 6846 mile 66 300 2dr

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