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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: gtx6970]
#77043
07/04/08 12:47 PM
07/04/08 12:47 PM
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Posts: 1,711
USA
ECS
David Walden
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David Walden
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,711
USA
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Lets get this out of the way right now, I do NOT carry restamped radiator hoses, Badalson /Gibson are the only ones licensed to restamp radiator hoses
Here is another problem that might be some of the reason for this hose "confusion". Take a look at the list below for the hoses that are being currently offered. The "2863257" that Frank sells is being listed for ALL the performance engines but WITHOUT A/C!! If this hobby has been buying this hose for everything EXCEPT A/C cars, this is incorrect according to the parts book. Here are the applications (according to the parts book) for the 2863257 and 1881804 radiator hoses:
hose#2863257- **W/383, 440 Eng. W/A/Cond. W/Max. Cooling**
hose#1881804- **W/383, 440 Eng. W/O A/Cond.** part #1881804
A page from Frank Badalson's catalog:
114HS NEW! 3462114 70 b&e-body 383, b-body 6-bbl; 22 inch rad; upper
...$45.00
116HS NEW! 3462116 70 e-body 440, 440-6; 22 inch rad
...$45.00
931HS 2658931 lower 66 67-68 440, hemi B-body
$60.00
257HS 2863257 upper 383, 440, 440+6 with 26 inch radiator B and E-body, 69-71$35.00
184HS 3462184 upper 426 hemi with shaker 70-71 hemi cuda $60.00
256HS 2863256 lower 383, 440, 440+6 hemi 70 B and E-body
$35.00
245HS 2863245 lower 383, 440, 440+6 hemi 69 B-body
. $35.00
119HS 3462119 lower 383, 440, 440+6 hemi 71 B and E-body
$35.00
230HS 2863230 upper 69 Hemi
$40.00
113HS 3462113 upper 70 Hemi Challenger
$60.00
244HS 2863244 69 B-body 383/440 with 22 inch rad. & some C-body 383/440 $40.00
201HS NEW 2863201 68 B-body 383/440 w/ 22 inch rad.
Has it occurred to anyone that the incorrect hose has somehow become accepted over time as the correct one?
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77045
07/04/08 01:04 PM
07/04/08 01:04 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,760
N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
Too Many Posts
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Too Many Posts
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N.E. OHIO, USA
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Hi A12,
Maybe you can shed some light on this subject. Is the hose you pictured here an A/C car like it should be according to the parts book?
Dave, no, for sure NOT an A/C car! It's from the 5600 mile survivor A12 Super Bee and everyone knows A12's NEVER had A/C as an option. I have an original black and white factory A12 photo from '69 with the exact same top radiator hose and two more photos of low mile A12's with the part number printed on them I'll post later.
MikeR
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77047
07/04/08 01:38 PM
07/04/08 01:38 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,760
N.E. OHIO, USA
A12
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Too Many Posts
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Do you see the confusion that is starting to developed here? Chryslers own parts application book seems to be contradicting what came on their own cars. How can anyone be absolutely sure what is correct unless you were lucky enough to still have the original hose when you took possession of your car?
I believe it has more to do with the print date of the parts information than a contradiction by Chrysler. I know for sometime the part number for the connecting rods for the '69(1/2) A12 440 was listed as the so called heavy duty "Six Pack Rods" but that's only because the information was printed and revised after the spring of '69 production. The '69 built A12 440's did not have "Six Pack Rods" and did have single bolt cams, plastic cam gear...... The steel H-wheel part number changed from what was on the production "addition and deletion list" and several other parts were superceded by improved or current available items by the '70 and '71 revised parts information.
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77051
07/04/08 03:30 PM
07/04/08 03:30 PM
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Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,852
Dallas, TX
70challrtse
super gas
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super gas
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,852
Dallas, TX
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I will go ahead and start this exercise. Here is another "incorrect hosed" A/C car, smack in the middle of being built!
That's a cool pic. Thanks for posting it.
Your car is awesome and there's not a member here that would not be proud to call it their own. 
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: anlauto]
#77054
07/04/08 04:07 PM
07/04/08 04:07 PM
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,855
Georgetown Ontario Canada
anlauto
I Live Here
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I Live Here
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 11,855
Georgetown Ontario Canada
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The GTX hose appears smooth while the Challenger hose appears as we would textured slightly. I would guess either two different hose suppliers or the GTX is not original.
Why would the correct hose be in question if it's marked on the BCS?
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow!
[Re: ECS]
#77056
07/04/08 04:54 PM
07/04/08 04:54 PM
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 21,962
Enjoy life today, It has an ex...
gtx6970
Too Many Posts
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Too Many Posts
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Enjoy life today, It has an ex...
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I will go ahead and start this exercise. Here is another "incorrect hosed" A/C car, smack in the middle of being built!
not a good example. 1968 B-bodies used 2806186 on max cooling cars + A/C cars. I have a better pic if needed?
The only reference to #65 I have is lower hose small block E-body ( 3462165 ) so I can't answer that one
Last edited by gtx6970; 07/04/08 05:01 PM.
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