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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: Ronnman] #76822
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Dave(ECS)- I could not help but notice the gasket like splash sheild mounted from the inside of the inner fender. Was this the way they were installed on the car? I thought they were installed from the outer side to allow easy removal for caster/camber adjustments. Just curious and always willing to learn.
Ron




The caster shields are the metal shields further in front.

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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: 70RT Charger] #76823
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Dave I do trust you and believe you and Im not going to argue anymore about the underside of the car,but ECS needs to eat crow on his comments,he will never be able to mirror that car as though it was teleported from 1970.Thats BS and you know it,and I GUARANTEE that!




Don't judge others by your inabilities or shortcomings. But just in case, do you feel that I will ever be able to visit Spain next year for a leisurely getaway vacation Mr. Omniscient?

PS. Please come to the Nationals! I can't wait to see how you look with black feathers protruding from the edges of YOUR mouth.

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: DodgeMaterial] #76824
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Hey Dave,
You have seen the car every step of the way. Does it look like a new factory correct car from 1970 or are we just embellishing?

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #76825
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Dave I do trust you and believe you and Im not going to argue anymore about the underside of the car,but ECS needs to eat crow on his comments,he will never be able to mirror that car as though it was teleported from 1970.Thats BS and you know it,and I GUARANTEE that!




Don't judge others by your inabilities or shortcomings. But just in case, do you feel that I will ever be able to visit Spain next year for a leisurely getaway vacation Mr. Omniscient?

PS. Please come to the Nationals! I can't wait to see how you look with black feathers protruding from the edges of YOUR mouth.




Sounds like your getting real nasty.Did I strike a nerve?I hope so.Im sorry but it seems like the only one who has the ability to do anything right would be you.How funny that is.

Yes I will come to the Nationals this year if I can get off from work.If I can not not make it, do not get too full of yourself.But if I can make it dont think that I wont be to shy to introduce myself,I would love to see your car that has been teleported from the 70's.

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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: 70RT Charger] #76826
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[quoteDid I strike a nerve?I hope so.Im sorry but it seems like the only one who has the ability to do anything right would be you.How funny that is.





If you knew me you would know that I am having a very relaxed and enjoyable time here. Let me know any way I can assist in helping you to get to the show. The only "funny" thing is your comment about doing things right. I can't find anywhere that I ever stated or eluded to that idea. I guess that must also be one of your all knowing prophesies.

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #76827
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Let me know any way I can assist in helping you to get to the show.




You could probably loan me a $100 for gas and another $15.00 for a map so I can get there.

You never shut up do you?Anyways Im going to bed.

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #76828
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With all due respect, getting input from people like you is like a one legged pirate giving running advice to Carl Lewis. It will take a lot more than jealous individuals to rain on this parade. I assure you that I cover all the ground I walk on.




Your intake doesn't have the proper amount of casting flash on the inside of the #3 port. Just figured I'd bring that to your attention!! I'm not one legged, or a pirate, but I can almost sort of run faster than Carl Lewis!! ...... Looks awesome Dave!!


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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: fig426] #76829
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: Blues_Cuda] #76830
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: Blues_Cuda] #76831
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Can you please share your method used on the upper control arms and exhaust hanger bracket. They appear to be bare metal? Are they protected in any way? Will they rust or stay the same?
They look great!


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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: Blues_Cuda] #76833
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Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: Blues_Cuda] #76834
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Last one for now.




WOW! They only came with 4-lug nuts in '70, I never knew that?

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: ECS] #76835
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Do you have any pictures of both sides of the trunk mat? Is it an original?? What is the texture of the upper and lower surfaces?

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: HPMike] #76836
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Dave and I had a talk about discussions on this board awhile back. I'm not sure how many guys on here participate on other boards, but Moparts has a tendency to get really "catty" about stupid stuff. I don't understand why people can't have a constructive conversation without devolving into name calling. There are people on this board who have a lot of knowledge and are willing to share it, but there are others that just can't seem to keep their keyboards quiet if they don't have anything good to say. Dave, I enjoy hearing about your restorations and applaud you for enjoying your projects. Keep up the good work.

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: HPMike] #76837
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Dave/Steve-I am too interested in what bare metal protectant you guys use.MP-50,BoeSheild? Maybe it's one of those "secrets" you can share with us little guys.And by the way,the car looks great!!!

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: anlauto] #76838
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Hello Alan,
They are bare metal but are protected with a substance called Wet Graphite Film Lubricant. It is unequaled for protecting bare metal and can be purchased from NAPA under part #765-1412. It does not change the color of metal but obviously gives it a “wet” look. Before the shows I wipe off the excess and the remaining residue protects it until I can get it back on the lift and apply some more. I put in on the bare metal pieces about once a year and the parts never even get a tinge of surface rust. The bare metal on My Cuda looks just as fresh as the day it was finished 3 years ago. Keep in mind that the cars are kept in a temperature controlled garage and I don’t take them out in the weather. The stuff doesn’t wash off either.

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! #76839
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Hi Jim,
I responded to your inquiry with Alan. Please remember that there are no "little guys" or big guys in this arena. We are just a group of people who all enjoy being involved with this hobby and should do what ever we can to help or encourage each other! Thanks for your comments.

DW

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Dave, just wanted to say the car looks awesome and I look forward to seeing it at the Nats. I started out restoring my car with the same goal in mind but 3 things have made me change my mind. First is the time/research involved to replicate the exact as delivered look. Second was the cost involved, I just didn't figure how much money it would involve to procure every correct nut/bolt and NOS date coded piece I'd need. Third and probably the most siginificant reason was what you're experiencing here. The amount of experts that constantly critique what you're attempting to do just made me lose interest in a 100% correct factory restoration. I applaud you for having the time, funds and most of all thick skin to take on such a project.

That being said, I was hoping you could answer a technical question for me regarding undercoating. For a non undercoated car, I know the wheel wells were undercoated. But, I've been told that the area behind the rear wheels, from the wheelwell back to the bumper was also undercoated on a non undercoating car. Do you know if that's true and if so does this also apply to B-bodies? Thanks, Mike

Re: Taking it to the next level? Wow! [Re: b5rr] #76841
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Third and probably the most siginificant reason was what you're experiencing here. The amount of experts that constantly critique what you're attempting to do just made me lose interest in a 100% correct factory restoration. I applaudDave, just wanted to say the car looks awesome and you for having the time, funds and most of all thick skin to take on such a project.

That being said, I was hoping you could answer a technical question for me regarding undercoating. For a non undercoated car, I know the wheel wells were undercoated. But, I've been told that the area behind the rear wheels, from the wheelwell back to the bumper was also undercoated on a non undercoating car. Do you know if that's true and if so does this also apply to B-bodies? Thanks, Mike




Hi Mike,
I can't understand how all these "critics" have never done this type of project yet they seem to know much more than someone who has. They are the same people who would sit down with Babe Ruth and precede to critique him on his technique and ability for hitting homeruns. They don't discourage me; they only throw gas on the fire!

Anyway, no two cars had the same amount of residual undercoating on them. The primary reason for undercoating the wheel wells was to sound deaden the rocks that were thrown up from the tires. I do not see anywhere in the factory drawings where the area behind the rear wheel well was called out for being targeted with the undercoat. I have seen where it was over sprayed with varying amounts but I think the primary purpose was to hit the immediate wheel well surface area. Keep in mind this is one of those “never say never” areas of gray.

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