75 dart starter/electrical issue
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08/03/10 07:47 PM
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Hey everyone, this is my first post on this forum. I have a 75 Dart Sport with a slant 6. I've been driving it with only minor issues for the past year up until the beginning of the summer when the car began idling so bad that it was undrivable. Checked the hoses for cracks (none found, they don't appear dried out or old), replaced the carb base gasket, put in new plugs and wires. The starter was recently replaced with a rebuilt one but now the car won't even start. There was only the machine gun clicking noise coming from the starter when I turn the key. Battery tests 12v with my multimeter. So I replaced the ancient starter relay, turned the key and a spark shot out (of the relay) and there was smoke. I'm not a mechanic, I just love old cars. It's pretty frustrating not being able to drive her all summer and any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!!! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs.gif)
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Re: 75 dart starter/electrical issue
[Re: stumpy]
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08/03/10 08:14 PM
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Check your engine, body and battery grounds.
I agree. 12 volts is not enough. If i shows 12 volts sitting idle, it will drop dramatically when a load is applied. Put a good charge into the battery and clean the battery posts and clamps till they are shiny then reinstall and tighten. Your description is typical of poor battery, poor connections, or poor ground.
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Re: 75 dart starter/electrical issue
[Re: RapidRobert]
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08/04/10 04:52 PM
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Thanks everyone, I will be checking your suggestions tomorrow when I have time and I'll update.
Already cleaned battery posts and put new clamps on the main wires
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Re: 75 dart starter/electrical issue
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08/04/10 04:57 PM
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Did you check battery condition or or hook up a load tester???
Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks.
But: Don't fix it, if it Works!
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Re: 75 dart starter/electrical issue
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08/12/10 01:06 AM
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Thanks guys. I jumped the battery and got it to start with lots of gas, but still idles very rough. My friend helped me check the timing and he said it was close enough to what it should be. Replaced carb base gasket already, I think I am going to try to rebuild the carb. It's a 1 barrel holley, appears stock (holley 1945 I think?) but I can't find the numbers on it online to get the kit.
Numbers on the carb are like this:
6260 2 1240
I just want to make sure I get the right kit, never done this before. Thanks!!
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Re: 75 dart starter/electrical issue
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08/12/10 05:53 AM
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it will run rough if the battery needs a charge or if the cables are so corroded that htey create a poor connection.
Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks.
But: Don't fix it, if it Works!
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Re: 75 dart starter/electrical issue
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08/12/10 06:14 AM
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You may have to consider that your car eventually has more than just one problem.
You may have also a problem in your wiring. May be it was before or you did it when smoking that relay.
Measure the voltage of the battery when disconnected and read what changes as soon as you connect it, switch on ignition and start engine.
Sometimes it comes to a point where you will be happier to give it in the hands of a mechanic - for once.
After all these years having a 440 I realized that this means having an attitude... and a budget.
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Re: 75 dart starter/electrical issue
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08/12/10 01:07 PM
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hope by now you have your elec. problem solved. as to your carb,your #s indicate a holley 1920 built 5 1980.both carbs do a good job and kits are available from any of the part stores.see pics for difference.please be aware the # 1 problem with slanties is the intake/exhaust leaking.swing on over to slantsix.org it is extremely important to install the int/ex gasket correctly.we love our leaning towers of power. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hammer.gif)
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Re: 75 dart starter/electrical issue
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08/12/10 04:39 PM
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Thanks for the info and diagram kd, it's very helpful!! I am going to rebuild the carb, then try replacing the manifold gasket if my idle is still poor.
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