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Holley blue pump #760445 07/28/10 09:55 PM 07/28/10 09:55 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	I'm getting ready to swap out either for another one or a different one. Just curious to see people's opinion on blue pumps and other brands. This is just for a street/strip 64 Valiant. 346 with six barrel set up. Ported E-brock heads with only around 9.5 to 1 compression. The problem is that it went quite....hardly doing anything. I haven't really got too knee deep into to yet. I was thinking of just going ahead and buying another Holley blue pump and then rebuilding the one that's on there for a spare. Thanks for the feed back. Moparlee

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760446 07/28/10 10:06 PM 07/28/10 10:06 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	I haven't had much success with vane pumps for fuel - and won't buy another one - any brand. I currently run a Holley geroter pump ( 150 gph ) with no problems for 3 years now. Fastest 300

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Crizila] #760447 07/28/10 10:10 PM 07/28/10 10:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,762 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,762 A collage of whims	Gerotor seems to me to be an inherently superior method, but a Holley blue pump's been on my drag car for so long I don't recall...but at least 12 years. It's not a street car, though.

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760448 07/28/10 10:45 PM 07/28/10 10:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,807 North Dakota Azzkikrcuda top fuel
Azzkikrcuda top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,807 North Dakota	The one on my car is ten years old, running with a holley deadhead regulator and still going strong. It is the only pump that has held up on my buddies diesel truck. Great pump for the price, just alittle noisey.

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #760449 07/28/10 10:50 PM 07/28/10 10:50 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 571 Beaverton, OR, USA Alikazam super gas
Alikazam super gas Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 571 Beaverton, OR, USA	I think a mechanical would feed your car just fine. My van runs on a 120 gph carter street pump (6 psi) just great. I have a holley blue pump that is only on to feed the fuel to the nitrous system (was only $10 more than a black pump so why not?). Just curious

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Alikazam] #760450 07/30/10 09:49 PM 07/30/10 09:49 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Thanks guys. I already have an electric blue pump an I really don't want to change the fuel system to much from what I got as far as pluming and such. Thanks guys. Moparlee

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760451 07/30/10 11:35 PM 07/30/10 11:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	My blue has been going strong since about 95. Have a red just as old on the street Coronet. No complaint other than a little noisy. Also use a red as a fuel transfer pump.

383man [Re: MoparforLife] #760452 07/31/10 01:24 AM 07/31/10 01:24 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I only use the Holley red pump on my sons Dart and my 63. He has had the one on his Dart since 1996 and mine has been on my 63 since I put it on the road in 2006 or about 4 years. They have worked great for our street/strip cars that we drive alot on the street. Ron

Re: 383man [Re: 383man] #760453 07/31/10 06:56 AM 07/31/10 06:56 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	So have has anybody had to trouble shoot one? Like when they decide to go quite? Has anybody put a kit in one and it worked? Thanks again everybody for you help. Moparlee

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760454 07/31/10 07:43 AM 07/31/10 07:43 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Another question.....has anyone put in a shut off valve so that they could work on the system back at the tank? If so what and where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks again for your time. Moparlee

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760455 07/31/10 07:56 AM 07/31/10 07:56 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O 70Cuda383 Too Many Posts
70Cuda383 Too Many Posts Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 21,345 Marysville, O-H-I-O	Quote: Another question.....has anyone put in a shut off valve so that they could work on the system back at the tank? If so what and where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks again for your time. do you mean so that you can unhook the lines and not have the fuel from the lines drain out all over the place? nope. Can't say that I did, I just wait till the tank is almost empty to do my maintenance, and if it's not almost empty and it needs maintenance...well, I guess that's why I have 3 5-gallon plastic gas cans laying around! Photobucket sucks

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760456 07/31/10 08:20 AM 07/31/10 08:20 AM
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BIG-MIKE-500 ci member Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 42 Nelson-New Zealand	I would keep right away from the "Holley"blue & go to a"Mallory 140". They are a Gearotor in Billit Aluminum. The Holley does not last many years street driven, whereas the Mallory has been on my car doing around 12-15000 miles a yr for 14 yrs now & still faultless. Plus,they are Very quite compared to a Gear Pump. Mine is on a 12:00@118 Charger with 500 stroker. Mike in New Zealand.

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760457 07/31/10 08:35 AM 07/31/10 08:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: Another question.....has anyone put in a shut off valve so that they could work on the system back at the tank? If so what and where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks again for your time. I always have a ball valve at at the sump so that I can shut off the fuel supply when the engine is not running. It is before teh filter and pump so that I don't have to drain the cell/tank to replace the filter or pump. Or worry about fuel siphoning while the car sits. It doesn't happen often but have seen it. 6114366-fuelshutoff.jpg (16 downloads)

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: MoparforLife] #760458 07/31/10 09:46 AM 07/31/10 09:46 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Quote: Another question.....has anyone put in a shut off valve so that they could work on the system back at the tank? If so what and where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks again for your time. I always have a ball valve at at the sump so that I can shut off the fuel supply when the engine is not running. It is before teh filter and pump so that I don't have to drain the cell/tank to replace the filter or pump. Or worry about fuel siphoning while the car sits. It doesn't happen often but have seen it. Sorry, but that filter is so wrong if you that in front of the pump, Real bad example. #10 should be feeding the pump, no smaller.

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760459 07/31/10 12:18 PM 07/31/10 12:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,996 s. e. pa. C calrobb2000 top fuel
calrobb2000 top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,996 s. e. pa.	hi got a blue holley on my car , have had it appart several times due to dirt in tank ,had to clean screen in pump . worst thing is noise , get a carter 4594 much quieter and efficent pump for a street car . and for a street car a filter in front of the pump is not a bad thing !

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: MoparforLife] #760460 07/31/10 12:22 PM 07/31/10 12:22 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA Robbins OP master
Robbins OP master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4,920 Joplin, MO USA	Quote: Quote: Another question.....has anyone put in a shut off valve so that they could work on the system back at the tank? If so what and where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks again for your time. I always have a ball valve at at the sump so that I can shut off the fuel supply when the engine is not running. It is before the filter and pump so that I don't have to drain the cell/tank to replace the filter or pump. Or worry about fuel siphoning while the car sits. It doesn't happen often but have seen it. Cool, that's what I need right there......I'm in to ease of maintenance. Last edited by Robbins; 07/31/10 12:31 PM. Moparlee

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Robbins] #760461 07/31/10 03:00 PM 07/31/10 03:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Quote: Quote: Quote: Another question.....has anyone put in a shut off valve so that they could work on the system back at the tank? If so what and where did you get it, if you don't mind me asking? Thanks again for your time. I always have a ball valve at at the sump so that I can shut off the fuel supply when the engine is not running. It is before the filter and pump so that I don't have to drain the cell/tank to replace the filter or pump. Or worry about fuel siphoning while the car sits. It doesn't happen often but have seen it. Cool, that's what I need right there......I'm in to ease of maintenance. Don't know what is so wrong about it. It has fed the car that way for years and works fine. The ball valve is between the cell and the filter , this filter is before the pump as it is supposed to be. Have had guys that have race for a lot of years tell what a good idea that that is and have installed one. So it can't be too wrong. You can feed your pump with as big a line as you want to run to it but it isn't going to feed any better or faster than the fitting & inlet size of the pump.

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: MoparforLife] #760462 07/31/10 03:07 PM 07/31/10 03:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	It's that you have a 10 micron filter in front of that holley pump which will cause cavation and short pump life. A 50-100 micron screen should be used in the outlet fitting in the cell or a 50-100 micron filter before the pump and that fram filter after the pump, really. Holley will tell you #10 hose should feed the pump. I just didn't want guys to make the same mistake. Sorry

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Challenger 1] #760463 07/31/10 04:49 PM 07/31/10 04:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	I have a blue Holley pump with a Fram HP-1 filter in front of it.It's been run that way since 1981,and I changed the pump in 2000 because the fuel cell was left dry for a year and the foam went thru the pump.The current pump has been running for 10 years with no problems. Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

Re: Holley blue pump [Re: Challenger 1] #760464 07/31/10 04:51 PM 07/31/10 04:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest M MoparforLife Too Many Posts
MoparforLife Too Many Posts M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,200 Upper Midwest	Short life??? I really don't call 15 seasons & hundreds of passes on a used swap meet pump a short life. There are probably thousands of filters like that set up ahead of the pump, I know that I m not the only one because I have seen a lot of them and some of them on some pretty hot shoe cars. Do what ever turns your crank.

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