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Changing oil on your daily-driver ... ?? #757904
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WHAT determines WHEN you change it ? ... I do the eyeball, smell and feel-test more than actual mileage.

Someone I know is going to me but I just checked my last THREE changes(as far as mileage) .... and this opened-my-eyes ....

4246, 5464 and ..... 9016

...and the last two did not really need a change ... I just felt my little 4 banger 5 speed Caravan deserved some fresh-oil.

Re: Changing oil on your daily-driver ... ?? [Re: dOoC] #757905
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I'm a firm believer in frequent changes, gets harmfull acids/sludge/metal shavings out. At least 4X yearly (if not more). After all my $$$ invested


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Re: Changing oil on your daily-driver ... ?? [Re: RapidRobert] #757906
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Most of my family drives Toyotas that have a sludge problem if the oil isn't changed on a regular basis. Plus, they would never change the oil if it wasn't for me. So we just schedule oil changes at 5000 mile increments for all vehicles. Makes it easy; I just ask what their mileage is and change it at 5000, 10,000, 15,000, etc., miles.



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Re: Changing oil on your daily-driver ... ?? [Re: dOoC] #757907
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I change oil in my work trucks every 15K miles. They hold 44 qts.

My F-450 diesels get's changed changed every 12K miles, they hold 15 qts.

My pickup trucks and cars get's changed every 10K miles.

Been changing oil now since 1984 and have never had a engine failure. We do use a top quality oil (Amoco600) I also have built many motors from scratch. OH yea, everything I own get's 15-40, lawn mowers and all.

Changing OIL EVERY 3-5k MILES is a waste of money, I maintain more than 20 vehicles for 25+ years now. I know from experience, not from what someone says.

Re: Changing oil on your daily-driver ... ?? [Re: Challenger 1] #757908
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main questions are how you drive, were you drive and type of vehical. If you drive short trips all the time and never warm up the engine, change it more often, if you live in a very dirty, dusty area, change it more often. if drive mostly highway you can extend it longer. I feel the biggest problem is not the oil going bad, but what gets in the oil that can cause problems. on todays modern cars i do beleive you can go longer, but alot of people push the issue, but we don't mind putting in new egines for those customers. todays everyday consumers don't check there oil (or any other fluids) between oil changes, so that why i tell my customers to try to change it at 5,000 miles. it's cheap insurance


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Re: Changing oil on your daily-driver ... ?? [Re: deansrr] #757909
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I know the 2.4 VVT-2009 model engine has a engine oil over heat warning that will cut power if the oil temp is too high. I never saw that before, also the oil change light comes on due to use cycle roughly every 2000 to 3000 miles. The more highway driving you do the less it comes on, The longest on my own cars I have gone is 6000 on synthetic oil and most was highway driving. I have seen 360s and 318 thatb went 20K on oil changes and they were not pretty inside but they ran. I have had 5.4 Fords go 25K and never been changes But I don't recommend it. They used semi suynthetic oil and have 7Qt capacity

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I change mine every 3500 miles since it`s cheap insurance but it`s your car do what you want. Going 10,000 miles as someone mentioned is crazy IMO.

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Going 10,000 miles as someone mentioned is crazy IMO.




It might sound crazy but I have been doing it for a long time. My newest vehicle right now is a 2001 truck with 350K miles on it. Couple of my older trucks have close to 500K miles on the odometer, BUT our trucks idle alot running PTOs, so they have even more miles on them then the odometers shows.

All of our pickups have over 100K miles at this point.

You know alot people let em go that long,

Amoco 600 is made for HD trucks and extended changes. I also used Shell Rot T 15-40 for at least 15 years, same oil change intervals.

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My 2004 Saab 9-3 specifies 10,000 mile OCI's but only if you use GM Long-life rated oil, Mobil 1 0w-40.

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All this extended range is rated on ideal driving conditions and driving practically non stop so that contaminating condensation is immediately gone and other combustion contaminents that are formed are rapidly burnt off rather than deposited in the oil. In most cases the daily drivers are relatively short drives and IMO requiring frequent oil changes. Extended oil ratings or not, synthetic or not. It is not the oil that goes bad but the contaminants that it contains that most filters cannot remove. Oil change frequency will depend on the type of driving being done during that changes duration. BUY GOOD OIL KEEP IT AND YOUR ENGINE CLEAN. It will lead to a long and happy life. Mopar recommends the same change mileage for either dino or synthetic oils in the owners manuals I have. Oil is still the cheapest maintainance item there is there is no reason in the world not to change more often.

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Going 10,000 miles as someone mentioned is crazy IMO.




It might sound crazy but I have been doing it for a long time. My newest vehicle right now is a 2001 truck with 350K miles on it. Couple of my older trucks have close to 500K miles on the odometer, BUT our trucks idle alot running PTOs, so they have even more miles on them then the odometers shows.

All of our pickups have over 100K miles at this point.

You know alot people let em go that long,

Amoco 600 is made for HD trucks and extended changes. I also used Shell Rot T 15-40 for at least 15 years, same oil change intervals.





yes, but that 44 quart oil pan also allows for the oil to go much longer before it reaches the same ppm contaminants than your average, 3-5 quart oil pan on today's economy cars, light duty trucks etc.

I change our cars every 4-5K with their 3.5 qt oil pans, and our dakota every 6-7K with it's 6 quart plus 1 quart in the filter oil capacity.


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Re: Changing oil on your daily-driver ... ?? [Re: bordin34] #757915
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I usually go every 6 months, which for us works out to about 3000-4000 mile intervals.


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My manual in my 09 F-150 says evey 6000 miles. I have been going about 5000 miles between changes. I use full synthetic and drive mostly highway 64 miles per day, plus it has an 8 qt capacity. The wifes 2001 New Beetle uses 4 qts. She drives shorter trips so I go every 3000 or so before changes, using non-synthetic.


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My neon burns enough oil that it gets a fresh quart every 1500 or so so I dont feel the need to change the oil anymore; it changes itself.

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I use only Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic and change it every 10,000 miles in both cars.

2003 Pontiac Grand Prix with 122,000

1999 Buick Park Avenue with 200,000

I've had Buick 3.8's in the past go close to 300,000 and never had a failure. The only reason I've never seen more than that is because I sold them or the wife wrecked them!

Both cars get fully warmed up and see plenty of highway miles to burn off contaminants.

I tried going to a lighter 5w30 over the recommended 10w30 for better mileage but they started burning it.

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I use only Mobil 1 Fully Synthetic and change it every 10,000 miles in both cars.

2003 Pontiac Grand Prix with 122,000

1999 Buick Park Avenue with 200,000

I've had Buick 3.8's in the past go close to 300,000 and never had a failure. The only reason I've never seen more than that is because I sold them or the wife wrecked them!

Both cars get fully warmed up and see plenty of highway miles to burn off contaminants.

I tried going to a lighter 5w30 over the recommended 10w30 for better mileage but they started burning it.




Cool, I knew I wasn't the only one going longer than 5K miles.

I have 3 work pickup trucks that get driven short trips almost everyday. Two of them are 5.7 GM engines and have 80-130K miles on them and they get 10K mile oil changes. 1 1998 and 2 1999 trucks, one has a 454 engine and has done some HD towing.

I live 1.5 miles from work and some times my truck only sees 3 miles a day and it has 80+K miles on it and has always had 10K oil changes.

I'm living proof, I've done it!!

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Yes, but that 44 quart oil pan also allows for the oil to go much longer before it reaches the same ppm contaminants than your average, 3-5 quart oil pan




So true, that's why I listed the oil capacity, they could go longer for sure. But they cost alot of $$ also.

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I will admit that both cars use approximately 1 1/2 to 2 quarts in between changes with the 10w30.

When I used the Dino juice (Quacker State) I religiously changed them at 3,500 miles.

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It is funny that people really think that just because they use synthetic oil that they can extend their oil change frequency. The oil whether Dino or synthetic collect the same contaminants and it the contaminants that do the damage not the oil wearing out.
The chrysler owners manual suggests the same oil change schedule either way.
Oh well to each their own. Like I said oil is cheap maintenance so I will continue with my frequent changes.

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