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Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: DaveRS23] #718531
07/12/10 01:05 AM
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Escondido, California
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Dave,

You can swap it out if you need to. I can work it out for you just let me know. Champion will send you a label for a return and will mail you out a new radiator.

Craig

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: JonGottaDemonDad] #718532
07/12/10 03:04 PM
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I have been trying to return my 22 incher since i ordered it on JUNE 22..Looks like a 12 year old welded it together...I cant use the shroud...the right lower brkt is wrong ..and the upper outlet is not far enough to the left..and my fan hits it..It is now JULY 12 and no call tag from (performance cooling) champion...The latest story I get is champion moved?? can anyone verify this??Is this performance coolings m.o?? Has anyone else been [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] raped like i have???I want this pos out of my shop...

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: abomb] #718533
07/12/10 06:53 PM
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abomb,

You can easily return the radiator to Champion Cooling for your money back within 60 days. Have you tried to contact the distributor directly?

This is the contact info I found on ebay.

If you have any questions you can call us at 209-652-4059 or email at performancecooling@sbcglobal.net with your question include your number if you like call back.

Let me know how you make out. I will call them for you if you cannot get anywhere.

Craig

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: JonGottaDemonDad] #718534
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wow Im just gonna give you my 2 cents here since i do know the guys there. you call Rick,(hes the owner if i remember) at 714-432-1266. They are out of SO CAL and are a good place to deal with has been my experience. I had one bad one out of my dealings and it had a twist in it, but they let me return it and got me a new one right out. I sell for them just by word of mouth, nothing special. But I was so impressed with the service i got and the product was awesome , that i called and got hold of Rick and he and I kinda hit it off and walla. So tell him Brett in Sonora, CA(from Pro Street) told you to call and gave you the #, and I aint saying were best friends, but i think he will remember me and take care of ya man. I hope this helps. Ive run 3 different apps of thier radiators in a cuda,(BB car), a 69 camaro(LS engine), and a 72 chevy 4x4 with an injected engine and all are awesome!! So for the price they are just as good or better than a similar griffin I run in my other camaro. Thanks, Brett


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Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: TA6pack] #718535
07/13/10 02:49 PM
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Brett,

I have found everyone at Champion great to work with on any questions about their products.

Craig

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: DaveRS23] #718536
07/18/10 11:55 PM
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I installed my Champion radiator today. This was my second try. The first one was a real piece. The second one was nice but twisted. The dealer did not want to take it back. He told me to try twisting it back. I was leery, but figured I would give it a try. I clamped it down to steel welding table and was able to get 90% of the twist out. I then pressure tested it to make sure that it wasn't cracked. Today I installed it. I had to modify the mounting slightly. The fan shroud fit well, but needed moved up a little for my car (kesler 5 spd). Over all I am satisfied with it. If I was doing it again I would have spent the $550 for the Griffin.

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: tahoechallenge] #718537
07/19/10 12:07 AM
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Quote:

I installed my Champion radiator today. This was my second try. The first one was a real piece. The second one was nice but twisted. The dealer did not want to take it back. He told me to try twisting it back.




Wow!! Wouldn't take it back even though it was twisted. Unbelievable!! Hopefully it doesn't crack down the road sometime from stressing it.

Still waiting to get my refund. Was told the factory moved and I have to wait for confirmation that it's returned. Oh, and I couldn't seem to get one of those free shipping labels spoken of earlier. Had to eat the shipping. I've learned a hard lesson.


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Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: fishy68] #718538
07/19/10 07:06 AM
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Just got my 26" 3 row champian yesterday for my 67 Coronet and test fitted it to see if there were any problems. It fit perfectly. This is my 2nd. radiator I have bought from them with no problems. The first one is in my 68 Charger and it has been cooling great.

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: rapom] #718539
07/19/10 11:48 AM
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got my 22'' Champion Rad. this morning for a 72' Duster. looks good, no twist. will have to drill the two top holes to line up with the stock mounting points. this Radiator is 5 pounds lighter than original one, and holds 1 pint more water.

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: Tom Fox] #718540
07/19/10 07:22 PM
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Well with all that I have read here I am going to recore my OEM 22 inch. I don't think I will fool with these!!!!

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: moparrulzzz] #718541
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Well with all that I have read here I am going to recore my OEM 22 inch. I don't think I will fool with these!!!!





Has the quality of these radiators improved since this thread was going on? I'm considering whether to have my 26" Mopar radiator boiled out or should I go with an aluminum radiator? Lots of complaints about the Champions being twisted though.

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: cal_gecko] #718542
12/04/13 09:15 AM
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I bought a victory radiaitor off of ebay and it works and fit great. It is a copy of a champion I think. But it has a rounded top/bottom tank instead of the angled champion's, which looks more stockish to me. Price was roughly the same.

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: moparrulzzz] #718543
12/04/13 12:51 PM
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I bought one off of eBay for $189 to my door. It was a 2 core for my 65 dart 318 & was touted as a direct fit. I did have to redrill 1 mounting hole in the drivers side flat side flange. It cools well tho a 318 DD does not challenge its' cooling abilities. No leaks. No bottom integral trans cooler but I use a seperate cooler


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Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: DaveRS23] #718544
12/04/13 06:27 PM
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I bought a 26" 3 core over he summer. I test fit it just to see if it would line up and it did so. I think for the dollar it's a good product. It just really bothers me that the finish quality is so poor. I've built assembly line products and worked in the packaging equipment industry. 90% of the ugly appearance of a champion radiator can be completely avoided by better handling of the raw materials during transfer, storing, machining, welding, handling and packaging. Their production practices are sloppy and would only require better planning and training on the part of their production managers and possibly some improvement of their work and storage surfaces.

Mine will require a half days work to straighten fins, clean it up and polish the tank to make it presentable. Not terrible considering the price but totally avoidable so there's my rant.

Of course if they took my word for it and put in the effort to make their product prittier, they would want more money, so maybe I should be happy with the ugly duck that is the Champion radiator.


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Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: Big Bad Bee] #718545
12/05/13 12:07 AM
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I put one in my Dart. Bolted right in with no problems. Works great.

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: StrkrDart69] #718546
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I bought and installed an Ebay 2 core 22" Champion/American Eagle radiator in my 70 Duster 360 and all I had to do was widen the holes/slots for a couple of mounting bolts to fit. For $159 delivered I was more than happy and the motor ran much cooler with no need for a fan shroud.

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Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: MY340] #718547
12/06/13 11:38 AM
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Anyone ever paint one black to make it blend in more like a stock one? been looking at one for my 68 Road Runner.


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Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: kissmyaspen] #718548
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Any additional feedback on this Product???

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: cal_gecko] #718549
02/12/14 06:25 PM
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Well with all that I have read here I am going to recore my OEM 22 inch. I don't think I will fool with these!!!!





Has the quality of these radiators improved since this thread was going on? I'm considering whether to have my 26" Mopar radiator boiled out or should I go with an aluminum radiator? Lots of complaints about the Champions being twisted though.




Do you currently have a fan shroud with your current original type radiator?

If so, it will not fit the Champion.

If you have to pay someone to make you a good fitting shroud for the Champion, there went of the $$$ savings of buying a Champion.

A Champion without a shroud will cool no better than a properly working equivalent brass with shroud. But the Champion will weigh a little less.

Re: Champion Radiators any good??? [Re: autoxcuda] #718550
02/12/14 10:16 PM
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I bought mine through a guy who was advertising them here on Moparts back in February of last year. The one I got was a 22" for the 69 Dart. It fit correctly and when I ordered had it set up for automatic trans cooler. I thought the service was great and the product as well. It looks and fits great. Anyone interested in one try ordering it thru "Craig Durham" <craigibc@yahoo.com> That's where I got mine.

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