Re: 360 vs 383
[Re: Moparzrule]
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For sure, I just put my 360 in my car and won't even consider putting a BB in my dart. Just too much work for what it's worth. I may have struck a deal with a guy just outta town from me for a 67 Fury sport / 383 equipped for under 1k. Never put much thought into BB because I'm more or less broke being a student. But i had got to reading about them and was just curious about them. It just seems like 383s are ALOT more $$ to build than a 360 and I don't see a whole lot more power being put outta any 383s. Kinda seems like you could run a beast of a 360 or just go 440 if you are doing a swap for the price of what you would have into a 383 anyways for a mild build. I guess if i was to build a drag car then the extra strength of a BB is good. But a 408 stroker seems to stand pretty tall next to ALOT of engines.
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Re: 360 vs 383
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05/26/10 11:49 AM
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I guess it really boils down to application, but not looking at that I say 383. Even with the slight advantages a 360 would have in stroke and a lighter rotating assembly, the 383 wins because it can breath.
If I had to do it over again I would go BB. The only reason I'm building a 408 right now is because I already have a good deal of money sunk into SB parts.
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Re: 360 vs 383
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05/26/10 03:39 PM
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383s are usually about the same price as a 360 and sometimes cheaper. No one wants a 383, its like the 318 of the big blocks. That said it is an absolute screamer and has more horsepower potential than any small block based on head flow capabilities.
Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
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Re: 360 vs 383
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Here's how I see it: PRO's 360-----------------383 Lighter Weight------Deep Skirt Block Smaller Size--------Better Stock Head Flow Longer Stroke-------Bigger Bore Cheaper-------------Bigger Displacement They both share shaft valve train which is very stable. It would come down to what it already had and/or what you had parts for I would guess. In my own case I'd love to put a big block or modern Hemi in my van, but its awful tight on the early b-vans (big blocks came in later years, '75 up, with different floor pan cut out). That being said, it also depends on what you want out of it. You would probably be happy with a mildly built either one. One might 60' a smidge better but the other would pull better through the mid range. My 360 pulls plenty hard for my heavy van (4150 lbs empty) so I'm happy with it and know I can do a lot with it still that I haven't, from EFI to forced induction to stroking. Hope that helps
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Re: 360 vs 383
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05/26/10 10:32 PM
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They're both great engines. I think if you were limited to stock, iron heads that the 383 would be the winner. However, these days you can make anything great depending on your chequebook. In an A-body I prefer the A-engine, it's smaller and fits better and you don't have to hunt down mounts, headers etc. I have a 383 in my 70 Pickup and I love it. I considered a 440 for the extra torque but I built the 383 because it's easier on gas and I'm real happy with the performance too. There are no losers when it comes to Chrysler engines from the 60's or 70's or up until now actually. I do prefer Chrysler big blocks because of the deep skirted block, dry intake, external oil pump, front distributor, forged cranks on most of them etc.
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Re: 360 vs 383
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A lot of good points here. For me it would come down to what I already had. A bb swap would require a host of different parts...I guess it would be the same going the other way, but that is practically never done. The 360 can certainly make good power, but I am not one to quickly walk by a 383.
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Re: 360 vs 383
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Alright, so it seems what it is really coming down to for the "average" build is that the BB heads flow better than the 360 heads (again, nothing exotic) So, that's where the 383 takes the 360. Because, my first inclination would think that given the longer stroke the 360 should be able to make monster torque to pull even a C-body. As it is, this car is 383 equipped and It would close to the dumbest thing ever to swap to a SB; thats not what i was getting at. So the major pros that I see that aren't heavily out-weighed by anything the 360 has is : Deep skirt motor (stronger) and better heads. Other than that, it's kinda "bore vs. stroke" and "cubes vs Weight" Alright then, I'll accept that
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Re: 360 vs 383
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05/27/10 06:21 AM
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If you are talkin C-body; only reasonable choice is the B engine. My 66 Polara and Monaco both have the 383. I cant imagine a 360 trying to pull one of those down the pike. A stroker 432 would be great in one!
I have a '68 Sport Fury convertible with the stock 230 hp 318 and it will run 75 mph all day on the highway and still pull 21-23 mpg. Before I bought it I was thinking of putting the 383 in, but after driving it, that ain't going to happen anytime soon. Some of the C's aren't as big as they look, my SF is the same over-all length as the '68 Charger I had. Both cars took up the same amount of space in the garage.
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