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Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: autoxcuda] #704242
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I have an LA built 70 Cuda 383 3 speed. It too has the black dip not grey like my other cars. It also has no undercoating in the wheel wells at all. Just blackout over the medium green metallic.

Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: autoxcuda] #704243
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My '70 Cuda has the grey primer..........




Where was your 'Cuda built?

L.A. or Hamtramck?




LA plant/April Build..............

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Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: 6bblgt] #704244
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so all la built cars had black primer on the bottom?? was that the norm for this plant??




ALL is TOO inclusive, data from similar SPD vehicles would be beneficial.

define "black" vs. "dark gray" ??

I think you would need to get responses from similar YEAR &
EARLY (August-November) or
MID (December-March) or
LATE (April-July) production

ahhh, very interesting info. my cuda was an earlier production model (10/69). it seemed to have a dark gray primer not black. however it probably has aged over time. Barry brings up some excellent variables with this process. mine was dealer undercoated.

Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: Stewpar] #704245
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My '70 Cuda has the grey primer..........




Where was your 'Cuda built?

L.A. or Hamtramck?




LA plant/April Build..............




Was it a non undercoating car or an optional undercoating car?

Do you have some pictures of the underside you could share?

Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: 70plymA34] #704246
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My Car:
LA plant, 70 Cuda
SPD March 70
Dip- Black, on floorpans only, not on upper part of framerails
Primer- very dark grey under body color, on upper part of framerails

I guess my car wasn't dipped very deep in the dipping tub.

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My Car:
LA plant, 70 Cuda
SPD March 70
Dip- Black, on floorpans only, not on upper part of framerails
Primer- very dark grey under body color, on upper part of framerails

I guess my car wasn't dipped very deep in the dipping tub.




Undercoating car or non-undercoating ??

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Undercoated.

Re: 1970 'Cuda Los Angeles built questions. [Re: rayztoy] #704249
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BS23H0E, SPD 226 Black dip primer, only under coating is in the rear wheel wells and the driver wheel well around the emergency brake cable and pedal mounting bolts.


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BS23H0E, SPD 226 Black dip primer, only under coating is in the rear wheel wells and the driver wheel well around the emergency brake cable and pedal mounting bolts.




IIRC, you car is a pretty rust free 100% california car with mint body. Never been restored.

How high does the black dip go on in the rear and front wheel wells?

So that is a non optional undercoating car I assume?

Seems like Hamtramck non undercoating cars got a fan of underoating behind the front wheels to to black out behind the tires. I wonder if the LA cars didn't get the behind the front tire undercoating because it was allready black.

That LA 68 Dart I pictured had no undercoat on the front innder panal area either. Don't know about the pedal bolts or E-brake cable hole.

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Yes, Its an unrestored car. 88k miles. The black out in the front wheel wells is just the black dip. This car would be an excellent example of a LA car to OE restore.

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Floor




That's clean

So thats the dark black dip showing through the flaked of pink. Does it seem pretty heavy and tough? More than the grey primer at Hamtramack? Like it's not just primer?

Surprized to see the shifter mechanism and shift linkage boot painted over. Was that factory?

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Yes, Its an unrestored car. 88k miles. The black out in the front wheel wells is just the black dip. This car would be an excellent example of a LA car to OE restore.






Very true. Perfect car to try to OE Gold with.

Are the underside inspection marks real prevelant and mostly still there?

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Dash and grey? under dash

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Yes, there are lots of markings under the car. Under the hood very few things have ever been changed.... master cylinder, pcv, heater hoses. It still has the original power steering belt, alternator and 2806070 fan clutch.

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Paint over the floor plugs & shifter boot indicate that the floor on that side was repainted at some point. Any signs of collision damage / past repairs?

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That's clean

So thats the dark black dip showing through the flaked of pink. Does it seem pretty heavy and tough? More than the grey primer at Hamtramack? Like it's not just primer?


Surprized to see the shifter mechanism and shift linkage boot painted over. Was that factory?




Thats black body seam sealer!

As for the over spray... I cannot figure it out. It looks as though part of the car was repainted after it had partially assembeled. Some of the body plugs are painted... not over spray but painted pink. The car had peices of its original carpet in it when I got it.

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Dash and grey? under dash




On the Hamtramck cars I've seen the auto shifter boot/cover and shift mechansism natural color. And those Hamtramck car have spray black out around the corners of the carpet and console opening so as not to show body color thru the carpet edges.

Did the LA cars paint over all that stuff?

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Paint over the floor plugs & shifter boot indicate that the floor on that side was repainted at some point. Any signs of collision damage / past repairs?




Barry, No body damage.... there is paint on the body plugs on both sides...but not on all of them? The paint in the door jambs has small chips that go down to the metal and there is no sign of a repaint in the jambs.

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