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Dumb Wiring Question #703835 05/20/10 09:54 PM 05/20/10 09:54 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct Moe OP enthusiast
Moe OP enthusiast Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct	What's the easiest way to disable a MP electronic Conversion kit to run a FireCore Dist that does need need an ECU or Ballast resistor?

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Moe] #703836 05/20/10 10:37 PM 05/20/10 10:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 259 Morris County NJ R Rustydog enthusiast
Rustydog enthusiast R Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 259 Morris County NJ	Easiest way, Unplug the control module and ballast resister and wire in the new ignition system accordingly.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Rustydog] #703837 05/20/10 11:52 PM 05/20/10 11:52 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Take off the ECU/ballast and their attending wiring/pentastar connector to clean up the eng bay then run switched 12V & start 12V to the dist as required and if it's the type where you run both above circuits together to feed it that'll be one less wire and a even simpler/cleaner setup live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Moe] #703838 05/21/10 12:23 AM 05/21/10 12:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: What's the easiest way to disable a MP electronic Conversion kit to run a FireCore Dist that does not need an ECU or Ballast resistor? assuming this is what you meant and you are doing this on the 68 dart... Like Marc and Robert mentioned cut the two wires (dark blue with white tracer and the Brown wire) leading to the resistor splice together and use as your power (or ignition on) for the new distributor. Everything from the resistor forward can go in the trash. The dark blue with white tracer and the Brown wire come out of the middle bulkhead fitting. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: HealthServices] #703839 05/21/10 10:09 AM 05/21/10 10:09 AM
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Moe OP enthusiast Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct	Thanks for the tips guy's. It is a show car. So I have the leave the ECU & ballast attached or I have 3 sheet metal holes. One more problem. the dist has 3 wires. + coil, - Coil and ground. In other words, how do I get power to the coil? Now what?

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Moe] #703840 05/21/10 01:24 PM 05/21/10 01:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	I do not have a diagram of the RTR FireCore Distributor but this should help you out. Just put all of the wires onto one side of the resistor and wire like below... 5995383-68ignitionRTRb.jpg (140 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Moe] #703841 05/21/10 01:28 PM 05/21/10 01:28 PM
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HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: Thanks for the tips guy's. It is a show car. So I have the leave the ECU & ballast attached or I have 3 sheet metal holes. Show us a picture of your work. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: HealthServices] #703842 05/22/10 12:23 PM 05/22/10 12:23 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct Moe OP enthusiast
Moe OP enthusiast Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct	Thank You Allen, Marc & Robert for helping me out. I am still confused (3rd shift) can do this to you. My wiring for the distributor is the same as yours in the pic. Still confused So I splice The dark blue with white tracer and the Brown wire together, after I pull them off the resistor and route them to + coil. Nothing else? I need to get started Sunday! I am trying to dig up a picture of the engine.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Moe] #703843 05/22/10 12:30 PM 05/22/10 12:30 PM
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HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	then find a ground (black wire in the diagram) for the distributer Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Moe] #703844 05/22/10 12:30 PM 05/22/10 12:30 PM
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Moe OP enthusiast Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct	Engine bay 5996958-Picture263.jpg (57 downloads)

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Moe] #703845 05/22/10 01:10 PM 05/22/10 01:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	Quote: So I splice The dark blue with white tracer and the Brown wire together, after I pull them off the resistor and route them to + coil. Nothing else? It is not that hard if you look at it one wire at a time. Yes, it is as simple as it looks. Before... 5997009-68ignitionMSD.jpg (133 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: HealthServices] #703846 05/22/10 01:12 PM 05/22/10 01:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	I'm not sure if you have a wire from the resistor to the voltage regulator But if you do make sure it is spliced into this as well. After... 5997010-68ignitionMSDc.jpg (169 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: HealthServices] #703847 05/26/10 10:25 PM 05/26/10 10:25 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct Moe OP enthusiast
Moe OP enthusiast Joined: May 2005 Posts: 304 Enfield, Ct	Hi Allen, It appears some of the wiring is not OEM. This is the RUN or "hot" wire off the ballast. Red is ground which I can delete. Also my aftermarket tach is not hooked out to - coil? It works. The purple went to + coil. I bought the car like this. Thanks for helping me out. I got it wired. Gun-Shy about turning the key for fear of frying the whole harness. 6005035-mdc5-26016.JPG (41 downloads)

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: Moe] #703848 05/27/10 01:59 AM 05/27/10 01:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	The red wire is grounded and spiced into the purple, Blue/green, cluster? I don't see how it could run if it was grounded. And this cluster was connected to the other end of the resister right? The other thing I just thought of if you want the resister to stay there is just to put a jumper wire from one end of the resistor to the other leaving the wires as they are. I heard of guys gutting the resister on the other side so you cannot see the wire connecting the two. Last edited by HealthServices; 05/27/10 02:12 AM. Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

Re: Dumb Wiring Question [Re: HealthServices] #703849 05/27/10 02:02 AM 05/27/10 02:02 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal HealthServices Why would you even post that?
HealthServices Why would you even post that? Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,759 So Cal	I think on your distributor there is another wire that one goes to your after-market tach. 6005371-rtedist1.jpg (32 downloads) Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.

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