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Weeping Brake Reservoir #703491
05/20/10 05:33 PM
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My brake reservoir is weeping fluid from around the cap when I use the brakes? The cap gasket is new and I've rebuilt the master cylinder with new seals etc, the spring clip is very tight. It's power brakes and front disks.

I've tried disconnecting the vaccum to the booster and that made no difference. I've just rebuilt the engine and refitted everything in the engine bay, it was all OK before.

Anyone have any idea what might be causing this? I'm running out of ideas.

Cheers.


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Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Tyrefryer] #703492
05/20/10 05:47 PM
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Seems to be a relatively common problem that drives many to fits. Mine does it too. Seems like some have success with adjusting bail wire, new gasket, etc. Others just live with it.

Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Tyrefryer] #703493
05/20/10 05:48 PM
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Did you try lowering the brake fluid level?


Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Tyrefryer] #703494
05/20/10 07:55 PM
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Mine does it also.New seal tightened the wire.I have it to just a slight seepage now.I can live with it.Rocky


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Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: therocks] #703495
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I had the same problem. It was leaking in the front (new master). The bail wire wasn't clamping very well. I adjusted it and the leak stopped.

Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: ahy] #703496
05/20/10 09:17 PM
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Had the same problem. Found out the nice new chrome cover was warped. Tried a new gasket and still leaked replaced it with another cover same gasket and it stopped leaking.

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Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Todd] #703497
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Another common problem is that fluid is being heated from exhaust pipes/hedders ect. causing expansion of the fluid.Running the level slightly lower as mentioned may help.

Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: badblubeee] #703498
05/21/10 02:17 AM
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I have the same weeping MC. NON power disc, tried another MC, same problem again. I thought I was the only one.

Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Kern Dog] #703499
05/21/10 04:52 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, nice to know I'm not the only one!

I have the fluid level about 1/4" from the top, I'll try lowering it. I did find that the new exhaust system I fitted was touching the brass end on the rear flexible hose so I adjusted the exhaust to give an inch clearance but this didn't make any difference. I've also noticed that the master cylinder and booster gets quite hot from the engine heat, but I'm now running cast iron manifolds, before I had headers fitted.

I also noticed that the rear axle gets hot and wondered if this was effecting the brake pipe that's clipped to it. I've checked the oil level in the diff (8 3/4" Suregrip) and that is full, also the wheels spin ok, so I don't think that the brakes are binding?

Is it normal for the axle casing where the diff is to get so hot that's it's too hot to keep your hand on it?

One other thought was whether the brake balancer could be causing the problem?

Cheers.


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Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Tyrefryer] #703500
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Is one side the resevoir always low? I ask because this can potentially be a very dangerous condition where fluid is bypassing one of the piston cups and being forced into one side of the resevoir thereby overfilling and eventually being forced out the lid. I've seen this on many rebuilt master cylinders, which are always a crap shoot.

Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: 469runner] #703501
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Hi, no both levels remain constant before and after I rebuilt the master cylinder.


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Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Tyrefryer] #703502
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I also noticed that the rear axle gets hot and wondered if this was effecting the brake pipe that's clipped to it. I've checked the oil level in the diff (8 3/4" Suregrip) and that is full, also the wheels spin ok, so I don't think that the brakes are binding?

Is it normal for the axle casing where the diff is to get so hot that's it's too hot to keep your hand on it?

Cheers.




Yes. that's normal. rear diffs get VERY hot. maybe up around 250 degrees after a longer road trip. but it shouldn't be too hot for the brake fluid. brake fluids are usually good to 500 degrees or so.


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Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: 70Cuda383] #703503
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Thanks for the info.


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Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Tyrefryer] #703504
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Just an update for anyone who has a similar problem.

I rebuilt the master cylinder, fitted a new cap gasket, tried disconnecting the brake booster, adjusted the exhaust system for more clearance from the rear brake hose and still leaking.

Not thinking it would have any effect, I tried making the already tight bale clip a bit tighter by bending it at each end. It was very hard to get on but the leaks have stopped! (So far).

I think the reason it started leaking but didn't before is that with the engine rebuild, I have fitted stock cast iron manifolds in place of the tubular headers I had before and as a result the brake master cylinder seems to be getting hotter.

Thank you everybody for your help.

Last edited by Tyrefryer; 05/25/10 05:17 PM.

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Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: Tyrefryer] #703505
05/25/10 06:03 PM
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Allen Here's a novel idea, let's not throw a bunch of parts at the car hoping it will fix the problem and instead spend a little time diagnosing it first. Life was a little easier when I was just a wrench.
Re: Weeping Brake Reservoir [Re: HealthServices] #703506
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Thanks Allen, wasn't aware of these.


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