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floor pan install question #692141
05/08/10 09:17 AM
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I have floor pans that I am going to install in my 67 barracuda. They are the individual pan/floor mat style. I test fit them and I am very happy with the fit. I was going to put them in tight and mark the edge, cut out the floor and weld in the pan. My question is can I cut the floor long so I have a half inch overlap, drill holes in the perimeter of my pan and spot weld it then seam sealer it or is that cheesey? I thought this may make it easier to position the pan while I tack it in. Or should I cut the whole the same size and weld the complete seam?

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Re: floor pan install question [Re: Joshs68] #692142
05/08/10 10:51 AM
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I don't know what is "correct" but I would go with the overlap. But I would seal (or even weld) the bottom underneath to keep moisture out. Probably going to under coat anyway right? so that might not be necessary. Cheesy??? carpet or rubber is covering it Right??

Re: floor pan install question [Re: Scott Carl] #692143
05/08/10 10:56 AM
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A job worth doing is worth doing right. Do not overlap, butt weld and grind. Yes it will take longer but the finished product will be done properly. And don't forget that someday you will sell this car. Don't have a buyer walk away because of a quick fix.

Re: floor pan install question [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #692144
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I cut mind out and butt welded them in it took a while but I am very satisfied with the job, building your car is like art work you want it perfect if only for your self satisfaction Ed


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Re: floor pan install question [Re: Joshs68] #692145
05/08/10 12:37 PM
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Hey nothing wrong with that.I taught myself to weld and I knew I wasn't good enough to butt weld with the welder I had.So I overlaped it and used self tapping screws instead of drilling holes.I then took the screws out and riveted the floors,then welded the perimeter.I finally primed,sealed,painted,and undercoated the front floor pans in my Buick GS.





Re: floor pan install question [Re: Mopar Grandpa] #692146
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A job worth doing is worth doing right. Do not overlap, butt weld and grind. Yes it will take longer but the finished product will be done properly. And don't forget that someday you will sell this car. Don't have a buyer walk away because of a quick fix.




How is an overlap joint a "quick fix"? In the welding industry, its considered a stronger joint. Any butt welds we did, almost always got a backup strip or ring for strength. I understand making it like a factory joint but done right, a lap joint could still look correct. Just say'n'...

Re: floor pan install question [Re: Scott Carl] #692147
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A job worth doing is worth doing right. Do not overlap, butt weld and grind. Yes it will take longer but the finished product will be done properly. And don't forget that someday you will sell this car. Don't have a buyer walk away because of a quick fix.




How is an overlap joint a "quick fix"? In the welding industry, its considered a stronger joint. Any butt welds we did, almost always got a backup strip or ring for strength. I understand making it like a factory joint but done right, a lap joint could still look correct. Just say'n'...




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Re: floor pan install question [Re: tt455] #692148
05/08/10 02:36 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys. The pans in the Buick look good to me, always loved those, nice car!

Re: floor pan install question [Re: Scott Carl] #692149
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A job worth doing is worth doing right. Do not overlap, butt weld and grind. Yes it will take longer but the finished product will be done properly. And don't forget that someday you will sell this car. Don't have a buyer walk away because of a quick fix.




How is an overlap joint a "quick fix"? In the welding industry, its considered a stronger joint. Any butt welds we did, almost always got a backup strip or ring for strength. I understand making it like a factory joint but done right, a lap joint could still look correct. Just say'n'...




butt welds are for exterior skin panels where you'd have to deal with feathering out the overlap if you didnt butt weld.
Nothing wrong with using an overlap joint for a floor pan. Save the unnecessary labor there for the ext panels where it counts visually.

Re: floor pan install question [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #692150
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And use a weld through primer on both peices before assembly for some extra protection







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