Re: Running hot with 440 source housing and pump
[Re: Challenger 1]
#685506
05/06/10 01:41 PM
05/06/10 01:41 PM
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Isn't there guys here running the Source housing without overheating issues?
I have a 440 Source pump that I use with a stock housing, and I haven't had any issues with my .055" over and 11.5:1 compression engine. Then again I don't take the car on any 500-mile road trips.
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Re: Running hot with 440 source housing and pump
[Re: Dougsmopars]
#685508
05/06/10 06:36 PM
05/06/10 06:36 PM
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Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio
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Installed the Milodon pump and temp droped 20 to 30 degree's. The 440 source pumps are junk. Even worse when used with there houseing. Cars runs at 185 steady now 190 in stop and go traffic. Now when you rev it up a bit you can see the water really moving in the rad.
Good to hear, I'm thinking most of the Source stuff is junk. I don't care for China, I wonder why?
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Re: Running hot with 440 source housing and pump
[Re: Dougsmopars]
#685510
05/06/10 06:43 PM
05/06/10 06:43 PM
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Installed the Milodon pump and temp droped 20 to 30 degree's. The 440 source pumps are junk. Even worse when used with there houseing. Cars runs at 185 steady now 190 in stop and go traffic. Now when you rev it up a bit you can see the water really moving in the rad.
Told ya the pump was junk The 440 Source pump housing wouldn't be my first choice either. It does work OK, but there are better products available for a similar price
440 Source does put out a lot of good products for us, but this housing & pump assembly is deffinately not one of them.
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Re: Running hot with 440 source housing and pump
[Re: Dougsmopars]
#685513
05/06/10 07:41 PM
05/06/10 07:41 PM
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Car had no over heat issues till i installed the 440 source parts. Trashed that junk pump car is back to normal. That was money down the drain. pump went into trash. I wouldn't sell it to anyone. Made in China = JUNK
Why not give it to someone else and see if they have the overheating problem? That would be a good test.
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Re: Running hot with 440 source housing and pump
[Re: 440challenger]
#685518
05/06/10 08:13 PM
05/06/10 08:13 PM
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Its a brand new 26" champion radiator . No shroud, but i dont have one on any of my other RB cars and they run 180
It sounds like your learning how important shrouds are... It makes a big difference along with a funtioning fan clutch if your running one.
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Re: Running hot with 440 source housing and pump
[Re: 440challenger]
#685519
05/06/10 08:22 PM
05/06/10 08:22 PM
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Well im in bad shape. i put a 160 stat in and the car is still running at 210-215 on a short cruize. Its almost getting worse not better.
Switching from a 180 to a 160 will only make it worse. If your cooling system can't maintain 180 it's sure as hell not going to maintain 160. The thermostats just going to stay open and the hot water is just going to keep cycling through your block, never stopping in the radiator long enough to be cooled off. Put the 180 back in and move forward from there...
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Re: Running hot with 440 source housing and pump
[Re: 440challenger]
#685521
05/06/10 08:38 PM
05/06/10 08:38 PM
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Im running a brand new fan clutch and they fan is about 3/4 inch away from rad. Like i said i dont run a shroud on my roadrunner or challenger and they run 180. I think it's way beyond a shroud ,because i had an HHR elec fan with shroud and it was doing the same thing.
How can i tell if my lower rad hose is collapsing while driving ? Theres a ton of pressure in it when engines off...
Could i have a blown head gasket/ cracked head causing this overheating issue without the signs of running poorly or smelling antifreeze?
Doubt head gasket or crack since it's running good.
Put a spring in the lower hose if it don't have one. When in stop and go traffic shrouds become more important, I'm telling you.
you sure there's no air in the system?
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