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440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? #678631
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Any thoughts / feedback on the 440 Source "I" beam rods? (for hot street/strip builds as an alternative to rebuilding stock rods)

How is Size, consistency, quality, success or problems etc...

They list them as 5140 alloy with arp 7/16" rod bolts. Seems like similar specs to an eagle SIR rod, but eagle doesn't list that app.
http://store.440source.com/Connecting-Rods-RB-5140-Forged-Steel-NEW-Set-of-8/productinfo/200-1015/



I wish SCAT made an I beam for these engines as I've had great experience with the Scat 4340 I beam rod in other applications.

Thanks!


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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: maxeffort] #678632
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they're great! you can break them as good as any other rod,

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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: rebel] #678633
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I have been using them for 3-4 years no problems

Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: maxeffort] #678634
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Why "I-beam" and not "H-beam" ?

Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: Stanton] #678635
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Quote:

Why "I-beam" and not "H-beam" ?




The I beam is stronger than the H beam, look at all the high end rods, they are some sort of I beam .

Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: Stanton] #678636
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Quote:

Why "I-beam" and not "H-beam" ?




Personally, I like I beam rods when possible.
I use the SCAT I beam quite a bit in SBC and BBC applications and at some decent power levels, even in endurance apps such as circle track.

In this case, just looking for an economical, but decent quality rod for typical 450-500HP or so street/strip engines that aren't beat on every weekend at the strip.

Stock mopar rods that I shot peen, re-size, with ARP bolts seem to hold up fine. But the stock rods are all over the place in weight and you spend some time balancing them. By the time you do all that, a set of reasonably priced aftermarket "I" beams is a wash and less work for me.


The 440 source rod might fit the bill. I'm wondering how the weights are within a set and if the big and small ends are sized well. (SCAT rods are pretty good) If I have to re-size all the 440 source rods before using them, it won't be so good.


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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: maxeffort] #678637
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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: Wicked49670dart] #678638
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Maxeffort,

The rod you are showing is more geared toward a stock high performance application. Make sure you are looking at the correct rod for your application. If you are choosing between these 5140 I beams and some 4340 H beams the h beams are stronger!

Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: maxeffort] #678639
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The last time I called(several months ago) 440 source was not selling thier I beams rods anymore, at least the 7.1 long BB Chevy type rods BTW, I do have a set of them in a street hemi motor, two years on it now


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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: Cab_Burge] #678640
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440source rods in one my Hemis..No problems yet
I wanted to get another set(spare) but they aren't made anymore.


Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: maxeffort] #678641
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They're still on the website, at least in the 6.76 size. I'll have to call and see if they are avail.


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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: maxeffort] #678642
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First set I got was way out of round on the big big..sent them back..They didn't have anymore then..I got the H-beams and they was fixable.

Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: maxeffort] #678643
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we have been running those rods since 05 No problems.3400lb car 10.0s turning 7000rpm.

Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: 47hudson] #678644
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We had a set in a 64 Plymouth which was a 11.70 street/strip car. Our machinist liked them better than the CAT rods he had for another build and it was cheaper to buy them than rebuild the old rods, plus they came with 7/16" bolts. They did have alot of side clearance, but that didn't seem to be a problem with excessive oil on the cylinder walls. OK for a budget build it you check them.



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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: Dads426] #678645
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I'm running the 440 source I-beam rods but there not the one's you showed. Those pictured are stock replacement rods not for a engine that will make any power.



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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: rowin4] #678646
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Not knocking 440 Source or any of the lower end products, but constantly hearing they need work to run, what does a set actually end up costing...?????

Rickster

Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: rickstershemi] #678647
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Not knocking 440 Source or any of the lower end products, but constantly hearing they need work to run, what does a set actually end up costing...?????

Rickster




Well in my case the machine shop I took mine to checked out all the rods and said they were within spec and didn't need any work. I took it to be true as he drilled me a new butt on the other work he done.



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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: rowin4] #678648
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I've been running them for over 3 years now. Same short block with different head made 850hp and ran 9.40 at 144mph. Wanted to slow the car down and went with some unported -1 and I've been running 9.90s for the past 2 years.

Mine were dead on, no work needed. I've got close to 700passes on them so far.

I've never had any problems with any of there part and I've built 4 motors with their stuff so far.


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Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: rickstershemi] #678649
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what does a set actually end up costing...???





My machinist didn't have to do a thing to them for my 512 stroker.

Re: 440 Source "I" beam rods - Any Feedback? [Re: PolyDart] #678650
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what does a set actually end up costing...???





My machinist didn't have to do a thing to them for my 512 stroker.




Same Here. Pin fit only.



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