65 B body clutch pedal-RB- Lakewood Bellhousing ?
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I am close to getting my 65 Coronet RB 4-speed conversion done. However, in getting the clutch adjusted I noticed the pedal will not return all the way up upon release.
I am using a 3 finger Mcleod clutch, and Scattershield. I even disconnected the clutch rod from the pedal. The pedal still won't return.
I bought the pedals and spring used. I am wondering if the over center spring is the issue.
I have the spring installed that if you look up under the dash the spring is on the carpet side of the pedal assembly pivot (mount) bolt. The big coil end is torward the seat.
I can see where the long part of the spring rubs this pivot (mount) point.
Does this sound correct?
Perhaps someone can take a look at a factory setup and let me know what is correct.
Thanks,
Last edited by nd65; 04/20/10 10:15 AM.
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Re: 65 B body clutch pedal ?
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Can you manually pull the pedal up against its stop? Do you have a return spring on the throwout fork?
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Re: 65 B body clutch pedal ?
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If there is too much free play in the pedal it won't return to the stop, try setting the free play at the fork at 5/32".
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Re: 65 B body clutch pedal ?
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Is there a half-ball shaped part or rubber grommet at the end of the rod that engages the pocket in the throwout fork? If not you're missing a part. The adjusting nut should bear against a thick washer that bears against the grommet or half-ball
The 5/32" is between the end of the rod and the throwout fork.
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Re: 65 B body clutch pedal ?
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On some of those McCleod clutches you have to remove the clutch pedal over center spring for proper operation as it says on Brewer's site.
I'm getting ready to go through the same process on my 65 Coronet, so I hope you get yours ironed out and share it with us. I'll keep an eye on this thread and see how it goes.
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Re: 65 B body clutch pedal-RB- Lakewood Bellhousing ?
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The early B body cars have the transmission in a different position than the later cars. I'm sure the Lakewood bellhousing is designed for the later cars, not the early B body ones.
Here is a picture of the Lakewood bellhousing in my '65 Coronet. I had to modify it quite a bit before the linkage worked properly.
I will say that the Lakewood bellhousing left a lot to be desired in terms of its design. The way the starter was mounted and the clutch linkage was designed just didn't work for me. I had to redesign all of that before I could get it to work. But my engine has been moved back so I'm sure that complicated the process a bit for me.
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Re: 65 B body clutch pedal-RB- Lakewood Bellhousing ?
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I used the pivot from my 65 Bell in my Lakewood.That and I believe there are 2 mounting spots in the Lwood for it to bolt to.Rocky
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Re: 65 B body clutch pedal-RB- Lakewood Bellhousing ?
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I have a known "80's vintage" 2-piece Lakewood on my 65 - hayes gold clutch - stock over center spring and a return spring on the fork. Everything lined up and worked perfectly. Stock z-bar, fork, original trans and engine mounts Car is factory 4- speed street wedge and the ONLY modification was a simple bend in the fork return spring. Since you said "conversion" Where did you purchase the rest of the pieces from? I am trying to rule out wrong fork, adjusting rod, clutch rod or zbar..
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Re: 65 B body clutch pedal-RB- Lakewood Bellhousing ?
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I bought the pedals, over center spring, z bar, clutch to z bar rod (16.5"), z bar frame bracket and adjuster used from a guy who took them off his 62 or 63 b body.
I bought the bell housing bracket, clutch fork and bushing, return spring, adjuster washer, clips and bushings from Brewers.
The bell was used with the pivot in it.
The fork looks to be about 10.5" long.
Thanks,
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