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Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672864
04/18/10 09:13 AM
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Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672865
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in the pic above with the engine jacked up at 1st i only had 1 under the center of the pan.well the weight is more to the rear and it was tipping back because i had to remove the engine plate to get at the waterplug.i was standing on the front of the stand to ballance it and i called scott on the cell to come and help.no answer on the cell!! i call the shop ph where dave and scott are talking,no answer!! i leave a message um i think you need to come to the dyno room the engine is tipping back come right away.LOL.the look on dave and scotts face had to be something[priceless]

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672866
04/18/10 11:29 PM
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I wish I could have seen that


I'm just glad you were able to hang on till they got there

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672867
04/19/10 02:18 AM
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I'm impress, especially with 446 C.I. What brand intercooler are you using? Prying minds want to know


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: Cab_Burge] #672868
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I'm impress, especially with 446 C.I. What brand intercooler are you using? Prying minds want to know



it is a blowershop intercooler and believe me the water was moving slow from that garden hose to it.

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672869
04/19/10 09:56 AM
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it is a 446 3.75 stroke 4.351 bore with ported iron heads[346] 280int/180 ex at .600 .646/.631 lift 112lsa. 260/269 dur at .050 291/306 at .020.



First, congrats on the successful dyno session. These #'s are crazy high for that combination of parts at that boost level thru a roots blower IMO. You're validating a number that 'doesn't matter' to you by accepting specific compliments about HP without qualifying it. What parts did you change from the last combination that made near 800 HP? Where were you measuring the boost level? I see 30+HP per # of boost. This huge HP again serves as an advertisement of sorts and to quantify it IMO you should post what HP you made when your car last ran. Once again we'll, I'm not the only naysayer here, let your MPH speak for the power your making. Is that such a crazy concept?

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: HardcoreB] #672870
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it is a 446 3.75 stroke 4.351 bore with ported iron heads[346] 280int/180 ex at .600 .646/.631 lift 112lsa. 260/269 dur at .050 291/306 at .020.



First, congrats on the successful dyno session. These #'s are crazy high for that combination of parts at that boost level thru a roots blower IMO. You're validating a number that 'doesn't matter' to you by accepting specific compliments about HP without qualifying it. What parts did you change from the last combination that made near 800 HP? Where were you measuring the boost level? I see 30+HP per # of boost. This huge HP again serves as an advertisement of sorts and to quantify it IMO you should post what HP you made when your car last ran. Once again we'll, I'm not the only naysayer here, let your MPH speak for the power your making. Is that such a crazy concept?



YA KNOW I DONT WANT TO BE RUDE!if ya dont have any helpfull tuning advice or nice things to say go away!!!!!!!

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672871
04/19/10 01:34 PM
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I'll keep my dyno thoughts to myself...

But you know what?

Finding the plug water leak on the dyno was worth the time spent, no matter what the HP on the sheet reads.

That alone was worth putting it on the dyno. Can you imagine finding the leak, AFTER you put it in the car?!

In the end it doesn't matter what the dyno says. As long as you're happy with how the car ET's for the money you spent, that's all that counts.

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: dizuster] #672872
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the block is no longer thw weak link.now i can enjoy it without much worry.
idit: it is the manor in which the negative comments are made not the negative comment.it is not my dyno and i dont fix how it runs.dont bash the messanger.thanks.my engine is in the pickup and i am going to put it all togather in the car soon.

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Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: HardcoreB] #672873
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First, congrats on the successful dyno session.



Is that not nice? Honey.
My tuning advise; read your sparkplugs (especially on dyno, 'cause it's easier) they are the windows to the soul of the engine. I'd give you a converter 'K' factor but, those #'s posted are unusually high, LOL. Come on brother, lighten-up.

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: HardcoreB] #672874
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my carbs are just 2 jets richerfrom my passes[3 ] last yr so with the extra 3lbs of boost i should be safe.the plugs are a tan and i still need to lean out the idle air bleed more it is hard starting still and only 1/4 turn out.

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Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672875
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Metal, glad your happy You among many others here have cool projects.
Hardcore, I couldn't agree more with what your saying and most don't want to rain on a parade. Even if you are calling a spade a spade going by past numbers.
The MPH will tell the tale
They dyno is just a tool and should be used just as that.
Let's all wait for the latest joshking440/koffel dyno numbers

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: The Shadow] #672876
04/19/10 06:30 PM
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I am again seeing the some trash talking about a particular shops Dyno numbers. It is obvious that the numbers posted from the Dyno are not to this groups liking, so enlighten me before I get there on what settings should be made to accomodate you group? Is there a correction factor? What should it be, enquiring minds want to know.

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: joshking440] #672877
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I am again seeing the some trash talking about a particular shops Dyno numbers. It is obvious that the numbers posted from the Dyno are not to this groups liking, so enlighten me before I get there on what settings should be made to accomodate you group? Is there a correction factor? What should it be, enquiring minds want to know.



well last pulls for me were 1,000hp and the track shows under 800 this time i got 1152 and i would guess the same % for this. it is what it is.that is why we post them so we understand.

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672878
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Were those before pulls and times with you throttle linkage messed up?

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: WILD BILL] #672879
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Were those before pulls and times with you throttle linkage messed up?


with the bigger carbs yes.but before that even with the 850's nothing was out of adjustment the dyno link in my sig not the track pass.

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: blownzoom440] #672880
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Gotcha

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: WILD BILL] #672881
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Gotcha


glad you understood what i said.

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: joshking440] #672882
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I am again seeing the some trash talking about a particular shops Dyno numbers. It is obvious that the numbers posted from the Dyno are not to this groups liking, so enlighten me before I get there on what settings should be made to accomodate you group? Is there a correction factor? What should it be, enquiring minds want to know.



There is no trash talk going on from my end. Let me put it this way...this Kilpatrick(sp) guy built your engine correct? What if you took your motor to a different dyno facility and put up significantly lower HP #'s at comparible boost levels than MetalStorm's motor? But you're using superior parts. Do you blame the builder? I have to go...be back in a while to better clarify.

Re: D DAY RESULTS! [Re: HardcoreB] #672883
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Jim Kilpatrick did my machine work, and assembled my short block for me. Ill be waiting to hear your explanation

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