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What CID is that thing? & What cyl head is on it?

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Nice numbers,Mike!! Did ya call Greg about gaskets?

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Koffels has the gaskets.

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Cool!! I have to make some calls monday to get some...

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Very nice #'s Mike, it's gonna be a beast for sure

Rickster

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Thank you!my quest was for a little more hp but mainly a safer block [KP440] insted of the stock block i was using. the bigger carbs did help with IAT and more hp whatever it does at the track i will be happy with and just tune on it and have fun. i am no bracket racer .i just like to have fun and be as safe as i can.
the carbs need some tuning as the cruise A/F was 12.3 at 3k rpm warming on the dyno and that was after opening up thge idle air bleeds to 70 from 55 and 1/4 turn out on the idle screw total.i have a wideband and EGT and those should help.
we will se what she does at the track.
Mike.

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Was this on Koffels dyno.....if so I would be a little suspect...just saw a guy on Yellowbullet that made over 850hp with a w5 408 just couple weeks ago.....he was getting slammed over there.

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I'm impress, especially with 446 C.I. What brand intercooler are you using? Prying minds want to know

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it is a 446 3.75 stroke 4.351 bore with ported iron heads[346] 280int/180 ex at .600 .646/.631 lift 112lsa. 260/269 dur at .050 291/306 at .020.

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First, congrats on the successful dyno session. These #'s are crazy high for that combination of parts at that boost level thru a roots blower IMO. You're validating a number that 'doesn't matter' to you by accepting specific compliments about HP without qualifying it. What parts did you change from the last combination that made near 800 HP? Where were you measuring the boost level? I see 30+HP per # of boost. This huge HP again serves as an advertisement of sorts and to quantify it IMO you should post what HP you made when your car last ran. Once again we'll, I'm not the only naysayer here, let your MPH speak for the power your making. Is that such a crazy concept?

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First, congrats on the successful dyno session.

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Is that not nice? Honey.
My tuning advise; read your sparkplugs (especially on dyno, 'cause it's easier) they are the windows to the soul of the engine. I'd give you a converter 'K' factor but, those #'s posted are unusually high, LOL. Come on brother, lighten-up.

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I am again seeing the some trash talking about a particular shops Dyno numbers. It is obvious that the numbers posted from the Dyno are not to this groups liking, so enlighten me before I get there on what settings should be made to accomodate you group? Is there a correction factor? What should it be, enquiring minds want to know.

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well last pulls for me were 1,000hp and the track shows under 800 this time i got 1152 and i would guess the same % for this. it is what it is.that is why we post them so we understand.

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Were those before pulls and times with you throttle linkage messed up?

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Gotcha

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glad you understood what i said.

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I am again seeing the some trash talking about a particular shops Dyno numbers. It is obvious that the numbers posted from the Dyno are not to this groups liking, so enlighten me before I get there on what settings should be made to accomodate you group? Is there a correction factor? What should it be, enquiring minds want to know.

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There is no trash talk going on from my end. Let me put it this way...this Kilpatrick(sp) guy built your engine correct? What if you took your motor to a different dyno facility and put up significantly lower HP #'s at comparible boost levels than MetalStorm's motor? But you're using superior parts. Do you blame the builder? I have to go...be back in a while to better clarify.

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...what settings should be made to accomodate you group?

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Or maybe he doesn't want to give away his secrets...

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Why is it that when somebody point out facts it's bashing?

It's great Metal made improvements from his last set up but I also agree it's not right to misrepresent the numbers.

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dont think i was trying to mislead any1 as i was just posting what was printed for discussion as we are having to analyse.i am trying to make sence of it as is every1 else.i asked what would effect the # as per data entry and was beyond my scope of understanding with all invalved.continue,please. do you think you will be able to resolve this here?
now where is that person who and what are your cradentials and...?

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I don't think steve's post was aimed at you Dom

i agree with you but i also agree that koffel doesn't owe any explanations

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It`s all good............I`m not taking any of this personally and I hope the gentlemen that dynoed their respective motors achieve their goals at the track...........and for what it`s worth, my 3150lb. dart put 495 hp and tq at the tires...........

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after reading these posts i wonder why a few people seem to be so worked up over koffels dyno numbers.some kind of hidden agenda maybe?

isn't koffel the one who was instrumental in the development of the B1 stuff and this new block

i did a search of koffeis place and could not find one bad thing or one unsatisfied customer.
the three engines in question seem to satisfy the owners and make them happy so what the heck.

i don't think koffel needs to come on here and explain or dignify anything to anybody on this board .

in fact have the main characters in this drama invented or developed or have a shop or done anything of note in the automotive world.i would like to hear about it.do they have any big wins or any records under their belts

i believe its ridiculus to think koffel needs to do anything thats underhanded to steal buisiness from another shop

just my

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in a nutshell, this is why people go to Koffels, maybe the numbers are high, but the numbers are'nt really why people go to koffels. Its their expertise and knowledge. Indy inflates numbers too, but at least with Scott & Dave you know the product and work is top notch.

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Glad it's running and ready to drop in the car.

Here is my take on dyno numbers. I have seen my motor vary in HP on 2 different dyno's by about 10%. One showed 830 hp, the other showed 775. I spent the entire season looking for ET that would never be there. Once I sorted out out some problems and dynoed it for a 3 time and picked up 75 hp on the "stingy" dyno, the car ran exactly what it should run for the HP it had.

The motor made 850 "corrected" hp on a super cool pull, 830 at normal operating temp.

IMO I want the numbers as accurate as they can be, then I don't waste a lot of time looking for ET that will never be there. To all the nay-sayers that don't think ET calculators work, mine runs exactly what it should from the HP it showed on the dyno. This is with the Moroso power speed calculator and the ones on the wallace site. Go to this calculator, use my sig times @ 3000# and see what you come up with.

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Thanks!i bolted up a new sfi flexplate and sealed the waterplugs with silicone.she is finaly ready to go in.

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No new ARP bolts for the new plate??

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Glad to see its ready to drop in.... so when do ya
figure it'll be all done

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I'm guessin Aug 2057

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I can`t believe you`re not using the heavy duty B&M full circle flexplate w/all of that brutal power.........there`s not much meat around those bolt holes.

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What flexplate do you reccomend??That is another item I need to adress

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I can`t believe you`re not using the heavy duty B&M full circle flexplate w/all of that brutal power.........there`s not much meat around those bolt holes.

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the 1 i had on i got in 1990 so i put a new 1 on.i am not making that much HP anyways.

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What took ya sooooooooooo long?????

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that was a record install for me.

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Mike,,,,,I think you better get some more beer With that pit crew,,,,,,,u'll need alot

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Om bringing a crew with me on Friday....do we need an all night thrash session?

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Is that when your dynoing your motor?

I'll be at the track that evening

I work till 2pm, head home, grab the trailer and head to the track

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dang it bill....keep up!!!!

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I can barley keep up with myself

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sleep ....sleep....I dont need sleep....i have caffeine.... lots of caffeine.....

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Now your starting to sound like me

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Metal Storm, please post some more pics of your car once the engine is in place. I can't wait to see what it all looks like ready to go

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i sure will!

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so with a 6hr drive you leave at 3am?i have been to Indy a few times to watch the AMA run with the fuel bikes and street tire turbo busa's.

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