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SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? #670741 04/15/10 03:21 PM 04/15/10 03:21 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 287 united kingdom B blown360 OP enthusiast
blown360 OP enthusiast B Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 287 united kingdom	Im contemplating running a dry sump system on my smallblock R3/W9 build but really know nothing about it! My blocks a wet sump 9.2 deck R3 is this easily converted to run dry sump? What parts do I need to convert to dry sump and how do i do it? Can I use any make of pump or do I need mopar specific parts? How do I mount the pump and what type of pump do I need? What size tank etc etc...?Who even sells the stuff I need? Really guys any info would be great because im really stuck here!

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: blown360] #670742 04/15/10 04:15 PM 04/15/10 04:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	Here is a 340 W2 dry sump mockup that I was working with the other day.

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: blown360] #670743 04/15/10 04:17 PM 04/15/10 04:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	Here is a thread of mine in the archives. If you use the search function you'll find even more information. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post4819530

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: AndyF] #670744 04/15/10 04:27 PM 04/15/10 04:27 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 287 united kingdom B blown360 OP enthusiast
blown360 OP enthusiast B Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 287 united kingdom	So am I right in saying I can adapt any pump to suit my engine? Ive seen loads for sale but not sure what to go for or how it would mount?

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: blown360] #670745 04/15/10 04:37 PM 04/15/10 04:37 PM
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mokid enthusiast M Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 252 St.Louis, Mo.	I have dry sump on my R3 W8 motor and all I can say is if your motor has wet sump now keep it, It more hassel then its worth. with all the lines, remote filter, oil canaster, pump, new belt drive, In short don't do it.

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: mokid] #670746 04/15/10 04:53 PM 04/15/10 04:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 287 united kingdom B blown360 OP enthusiast
blown360 OP enthusiast B Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 287 united kingdom	Im just about to start hyaving the motor built and I figured it would be much safer to run it at high rpm with a dry sump system. Only thing is I know nothing about it!

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: blown360] #670747 04/15/10 04:56 PM 04/15/10 04:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	Well like most things, it is quite simple once you understand it. Read the thread that I linked to and then do a search for other dry sump threads on here. Lots of parts are available for the SB. I had to build some parts for my BB but the SB motor is used heavily by circle track racers and most of them run dry sumps. So there are lots of dry sump parts available for SB engines. You just need spend some time looking.

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: AndyF] #670748 04/15/10 05:18 PM 04/15/10 05:18 PM
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SB449VALIANT pro stock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,419 Mcallen, TX	Quote: Well like most things, it is quite simple once you understand it. Read the thread that I linked to and then do a search for other dry sump threads on here. Lots of parts are available for the SB. I had to build some parts for my BB but the SB motor is used heavily by circle track racers and most of them run dry sumps. So there are lots of dry sump parts available for SB engines. You just need spend some time looking.

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: blown360] #670749 04/15/10 05:23 PM 04/15/10 05:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	You'll want to get the block machined so you can run oil lines into the block. This is a wet sump block, on a dry sump block you won't have the lower line. The factory block has a 3/8 NPT fitting there which might be large enough or you might want to open it up. If you're going to scavange from the valley you'll need a fitting up there also. Last edited by AndyF; 04/15/10 05:26 PM.

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: blown360] #670750 04/15/10 07:05 PM 04/15/10 07:05 PM
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Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: StewartP] #670751 04/15/10 07:05 PM 04/15/10 07:05 PM
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Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: blown360] #670752 04/15/10 08:14 PM 04/15/10 08:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	Here is a drive plate that I make for Mopar engines. I designed it for big blocks but it should fit a SB because the bolt pattern is the same. You might find similiar products from Moroso or CV Products. 5927883-AR236a(Large).jpg (805 downloads)

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: StewartP] #670753 04/15/10 08:16 PM 04/15/10 08:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 252 St.Louis, Mo. M mokid enthusiast
mokid enthusiast M Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 252 St.Louis, Mo.	Don't Do It.

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: AndyF] #670754 04/15/10 08:28 PM 04/15/10 08:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 437 south central pa bdaz smblk mopar
bdaz smblk mopar Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 437 south central pa	Quote: Here is a drive plate that I make for Mopar engines. I designed it for big blocks but it should fit a SB because the bolt pattern is the same. You might find similiar products from Moroso or CV Products. If you don't mind me asking how much do you get for one.Thats a really nice piece.Thanks Kenny 3120lb, small block, 10.5" tire, NA, through exhaust, full int, WITH 83/4 REAR, 9.0 at 150mph

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: bdaz smblk] #670755 04/16/10 12:32 AM 04/16/10 12:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	The six bolt Mopar pattern drive plate is part number AR236. You can get them from Mancini Racing for $145. I don't know anyone else who makes a spline drive setup for Mopar engines but maybe there is someone out there. 5928475-AR236(Large).jpg (641 downloads)

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: AndyF] #670756 04/16/10 12:34 AM 04/16/10 12:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	I also make them in the Chevy bolt pattern. Lots of guys run a Mopar damper with the Chevy front bolt pattern because then it is easier to buy drives and pullies. 5928480-AR261.jpg (763 downloads)

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: AndyF] #670757 04/16/10 12:35 AM 04/16/10 12:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	I make several different block plates for big block and Hemi motors but of course, small blocks don't need these. 5928483-AR243.jpg (457 downloads)

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: AndyF] #670758 04/16/10 12:38 AM 04/16/10 12:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,307 Oregon	Here is a shot of that 340 W2 dry sump motor being dropped into an early B body car. It all fit just fine. The dry sump pan cleared the steering linkage okay and the Doug Nash five speed lined up just fine with everything once all the mods were complete to the sheet metal.

Re: SB DRY SUMP SYSTEMS??????????? [Re: AndyF] #670759 04/16/10 09:19 AM 04/16/10 09:19 AM
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DemonDust master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,207 Menomonee Falls	Here's a pic of my setup... Here's a pic in the car with the sheetmetal off... Last edited by R5P7Duster; 04/16/10 09:23 AM. SDG Motorsports Hellcat Demon and Redeye Supercharger CNC Porting https://www.sdgmotorsports.com/

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