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Re: How loud is your valvetrain? [Re: Viol8r] #670668
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Auditable but not loud... like an oiled sewing machine. MM lobe solid FT with .55 lift. It has 5,000 miles and no problems.

Re: How loud is your valvetrain? [Re: ahy] #670669
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I have a Comp XTQ series series FT unit with Isky iron rockers upgraded by RAS and it's pretty quiet I have seen some engines with a hydraulic cam and adjustable rockers not adjusted tight enough
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Re: How loud is your valvetrain? [Re: Viol8r] #670670
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All aluminum top end here with a new lunati Hyd. cam and its fairly noisy in a 11:1 440. I started at 3/4 turn and now up to 1 1/2 turns on the crane golds and its a little quieter and runs perfect.

Most say its the combo of aluminum parts and aggressive cam....not worried about it.




Same here. Comp cam, Indy EZ heads and rockers. 1.5 turns on rockers and still noisy. Over the past year I've had the valve covers off to many times to count and find no problems. It runs great, 11.7 ET at 119 mph with full interior, PS, PB and AC.

Re: How loud is your valvetrain? [Re: Dabee] #670671
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All aluminum top end here with a new lunati Hyd. cam and its fairly noisy in a 11:1 440. I started at 3/4 turn and now up to 1 1/2 turns on the crane golds and its a little quieter and runs perfect.

Most say its the combo of aluminum parts and aggressive cam....not worried about it.




Same here. Comp cam, Indy EZ heads and rockers. 1.5 turns on rockers and still noisy. Over the past year I've had the valve covers off to many times to count and find no problems. It runs great, 11.7 ET at 119 mph with full interior, PS, PB and AC.


If your adjusters are 3/8 by 24 thread (fine threads) one complete turn equals .042, 1.5 turns would be .063 travel which is probally to much preload I adjust the rocker preload with the motor warmed up, water and oil at least 140F, and start with 1/2 turn from zero and then go try it, adjust tighter and looser and find out what the motor really likes . Some of the motors, street Hemi and NHRA stockers, I have had like 1/4 turn warm or hot at the track


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Re: How loud is your valvetrain? [Re: dvw] #670672
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You'd be surprised at how much noise a rocker makes when it whacks the stands on either side with even an extra .020" end-play.
There are other things that make noise, and it may sound like it's coming from the top - like mechanical fuel pump eccentric, 1 bad link or tooth chip on the timing chain. Quite a few engines have been put together with valve covers too low, and a rocker bangs it - but only after you tighten the cover gasket a few times!
Yes, a hydro with the wrong pre-load will make noise also, and this is a function of oil pressure, viscosity, and tappet mfg.


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Re: How loud is your valvetrain? [Re: polyspheric] #670673
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Don't know if it's loud or not...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On6e7AB_dDE&feature=player_embedded

...can't really hear it good enough


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Re: How loud is your valvetrain? [Re: Viol8r] #670674
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All aluminum top end here with a new lunati Hyd. cam and its fairly noisy in a 11:1 440. I started at 3/4 turn and now up to 1 1/2 turns on the crane golds and its a little quieter and runs perfect.

Most say its the combo of aluminum parts and aggressive cam....not worried about it.




I don't understand all this talk about the "number of turns"?
On a hydralic cam the lash should be set when the motor is new and cold with the intake off. There's only a small area on the heal of the cam where there is no lift, that's when you set your pre load on the lifters. Each valve will be different and require different amount of "turns"

With the intake off you can see the plunger in the lifter go down, but you got to make sure your on the heal of the cam. Set it once and your done forever on a hydralic cam.

Re: How loud is your valvetrain? [Re: polyspheric] #670675
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I plan to pull the valve cover and make sure the rockers are not hitting the cover (Milodon chrome steel valve covers.) Also, make sure the pushrod ends / rockers are getting oiled good, and double check the rocker is not hitting the spring retainer because my clearance was a bit tight there.

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