Re: To relay or not to relay
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Relays should be used to handle the high current lines.. The downside of using a heavy amperage switch is that with every make/break there is a spark.. This spark tends to oxidize its internal contacts and eventually it will build up resistance and fail... Think about just like a set of ignition points.. Just my $0.01..
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Re: To relay or not to relay
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Why is it that most all of the "professional" wiring companies like Speedwire and Spaghetti Menders use relays? I'll stick with my relays! Mike Gray Duster Wiring
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Re: To relay or not to relay
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No relay requires higher quality parts, but also fewer components means fewer failures. NASA would use relays, but also 2 circuits in parallel back to hot with a selector. Under the car with a wrench playing with current while wet with gas isn't fun.
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Re: To relay or not to relay
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Why is it that most all of the "professional" wiring companies like Speedwire and Spaghetti Menders use relays? I'll stick with my relays!
Mike Gray
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Relays really only make sense when they shorten the large wire hot run, when you bank up a bunch of relays on a block in a central location , it may look all neat and clean, but requires long, large wire hot runs that a good switch and breaker set up can provide cheaper and cleaner
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Re: To relay or not to relay
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I use relays to cut down on large "hot" wires to the dash/switch panel.
I have no "hot" wires running to my switch panel. one wire for each switch goes to the relay grd. And I run one ground wire from the battery to a terminal next to the switch panel and attach the other side of the switches to the terminal.
Take Fred's pic and jumper the "switched hot" to the same relay terminal as the "fused hot". and run the ground wire to the switch. Now there is one hot wire running to the relay (fused) and one hot wire running to the load (fan, fuel pump, water pump, etc..), with the ground running to the switch, there are only three wires from the relay.
The relays use about 1/4amp, so a small ground wire can be used and just about any switch can be used with out risk of arc'ing or overheating.
If you run lighted switches, you would only need to run one small hot lead to the switch panel which would power the lights when the switch grounded.
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Re: To relay or not to relay
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Why is it that most all of the "professional" wiring companies like Speedwire and Spaghetti Menders use relays? I'll stick with my relays!
Mike Gray
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did you ever consider maybe because they sell them ?
Perhaps, but as others have said, relays have lots of advantages.
It's possible to create simple/crude/elementary logic circuits with relays, you can gang them together and have a SPDT relay switch between 2 circuits, have multiple switches control one item via a relay, even make a split 12v/24V system that charges with a 12v alternator.
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Re: To relay or not to relay
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the best relay set up is spaghetti menders, full led and fused.no wires,just connect and go,they have 3,4,5 wired relays,or can custom make,this is what i have.
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