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Gas tank lock ring does not seal #661368
04/05/10 03:20 AM
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I replace the stock 5/16" sending unit on my 70' cuda with a aftermarket 3/8's with the additional 5/16th port for a return line. I used the new lock ring and gasket that came with the sending unit, but now the tank will not seal properly.

I wanted to put the stock lock ring back on but of course when I check the box with the old pickup the lock ring is missing.

Has anyone else had problems with this? Could the rubber gasket be too thin?

Would love to more than 6 gallons of gas in the tank at a time.


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Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: cudamank] #661369
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I would locate another oe lock ring and use a gasket the same thickness as the oe one (reuse your old one if it's OK & most are). The oe lock ring will still have plenty of tension as you tap it around and w no sealer used on that gasket reusing it is no problem, just wipe it off and make sure the tank surface in there is clean.


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Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: RapidRobert] #661370
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One time, i dont know what i was thinking but put the rubber gasket ontop of the sending unit. Dont know if it could be that simple for you to just have it backwards

Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: cudamank] #661371
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Yes many of the new replacement gaskets are too thin.

If it still leaks after getting the correct thickness gasket you can tweak the lock ring to add more tension.

Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: IMGTX] #661372
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had the same problem, had to go back with the old gasket and old lock ring. The new parts were crap. Both the ring and gasket were way thinner than the old one.

Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: Andrewh] #661373
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new O rings and also new tabs on gas tank for the locking ring are TOO WEAK, and the bend easily at the loking pressure ( BTDT on tank and new sender unit ). use the original lock ring, or over bend the new lock ring tabs


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Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: NachoRT74] #661374
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Another problem I've run into on the cheaper lock rings are not only the thinner gauge as stated but also a lack of the positive locking feature that the original rings have...Some repops only have the ramp-up to the end without the stop/notch to keep the ring in place...I've had one back off and spill fuel !!! Luckily the exhaust was far enough away on that car... Quanta has the better lock rings and seal if you need new parts...

Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: screamindriver] #661375
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I'm dealing with the same issue currently. I have doubled up on the gaskets.

The inner lip of my tank is a little warped, so I will most likely put some sealer, rings, then the sending unit to clear it up.

I wish I never would have taken the original out!

Also, now when the tank is full, it never reads "full" for some reason, only 3/4 at best with the "new" sending unit. I have heard this is a common problem too.

anyway, double up and see what happens.


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Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: eightlitermopar] #661376
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Quote:

I'm dealing with the same issue currently. I have doubled up on the gaskets.

The inner lip of my tank is a little warped, so I will most likely put some sealer, rings, then the sending unit to clear it up.

I wish I never would have taken the original out!



Also, now when the tank is full, it never reads "full" for some reason, only 3/4 at best with the "new" sending unit. I have heard this is a common problem too.

anyway, double up and see what happens.


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...and just what 'sealer' do you intend to use?

Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #661377
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Quote:

Quote:

I'm dealing with the same issue currently. I have doubled up on the gaskets.

The inner lip of my tank is a little warped, so I will most likely put some sealer, rings, then the sending unit to clear it up.

I wish I never would have taken the original out!



Also, now when the tank is full, it never reads "full" for some reason, only 3/4 at best with the "new" sending unit. I have heard this is a common problem too.

anyway, double up and see what happens.


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...and just what 'sealer' do you intend to use?




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There is a small part of the inner lip that is warped, a small amount of liquid metal to fill in the warped area (approx 1/4 of an inch of the lip), then go from there. I have the tank out now.

Nothing else I have done seems to seal it up. It's either this or drive around 1/4 of a tank at a time....or a new tank.
I've replaced several of these and this is the first issue I have had, so I really don't know what to do either.
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Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: cudamank] #661378
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Quote:

I replace the stock 5/16" sending unit on my 70' cuda with a aftermarket 3/8's with the additional 5/16th port for a return line. I used the new lock ring and gasket that came with the sending unit, but now the tank will not seal properly.

I wanted to put the stock lock ring back on but of course when I check the box with the old pickup the lock ring is missing.

Has anyone else had problems with this? Could the rubber gasket be too thin?

Would love to more than 6 gallons of gas in the tank at a time.




Watch out for the cheapo Chinese lock ring and gasket. Mine leaked like a stuck pig until a bought an OEM gasket and ring from the dealer.

Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: torkrules] #661379
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Any idea if this is a good one or not. the flat is .050" thick and the O ring is .075". $10 dollars to your door

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Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: RapidRobert] #661380
04/06/10 12:14 AM
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I also had a repop tank on my 66 Charger and had to use two gaskets to get it to seal.
On my Roadrunner, the repop ring was way too thick for a factory tank, and would not lock, I would up using a factory lock ring..
There are all kinds of variations out there..

Re: Gas tank lock ring does not seal [Re: RapidRobert] #661381
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Any idea if this is a good one or not. the flat is .050" thick and the O ring is .075". $10 dollars to your door




Hard to tell from pictures. Mine was too small in diameter and too thin. I have the actual tool and could see the ring moving up-down-sideways when trying to lock it. The OEM one fits with no movement and you can tell when it locks.







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