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70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/29/08 09:23 PM
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Can anyone post a picture of the correct valve covers? What I currently have for the driver side has two "U-tabs" (single wire tabs),one on the top side toward the rear, and one near the solenoid bracket on the inside. However, from the pictures I've seen, these tabs don't appear on the driver's side, and all the plug wires are routed toward the front. I also have the boot shield for the no. 7 plug, so it would make sense if there were no tabs on the driver side valve cover.
Also, has anyone used "Plastic Dip" to restore to extensions on the valve cover tabs that are supposed to be there? If so, did it work?
Thanks
Last edited by daddyo; 05/29/08 09:24 PM.
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/29/08 09:34 PM
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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My '70 440 4bbl has those same valve covers, the ones with the wire tab on driver's PCV cover.
It seems the 440-6 didn't route the #7 wire, so what B/RB engines did? Any? If none, then like was asked, what would the tab be there for in the first place? Edit - must be correct valve covers for the non-performance engines with log type manifolds and wire was not routed under valve covers - but was routed over and on top of cover using that tab to access the #7 wire toward firewall as in opposite pass side's #8 wire.
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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Yep! 70 440 HiPo and 6 pack motors had 2 spark plug wire tabs and 3 wire bundle tabs all on the pass side cover and NO tabs on the drivers side cover. The ones in the pic that are stripped are probably C body covers. If you take your time you can gently grind  the 2 offending tabs off and with a bit of filler and paint you're in business!  BTW 71 and up used a different cover on the drivers side that had a second "hump" but no hole thru the hump 
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/30/08 03:48 AM
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I did all kinds of research when I bead blasted these, and I am very (99.99%) confident they are correct for 70 and 71 6 pack/barrel cars. I looked at dozens of photos, know what I pulled them off of, and know they were original to that car. Part #'s in the Chrysler parts cat. 2946057 and 2946063. I can take more pictures if you like.
Then there's always that .01% that says you're wrong. 440+6's never had the #7 wire routed over the driver's side valve cover. Sorry.
Alan...Your 99.9% correct...70 V code Sport Fury had the tabbed valve cover...  
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/30/08 08:50 AM
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Yep! 70 440 HiPo and 6 pack motors had 2 spark plug wire tabs and 3 wire bundle tabs all on the pass side cover and NO tabs on the drivers side cover. The ones in the pic that are stripped are probably C body covers. If you take your time you can gently grind the 2 offending tabs off and with a bit of filler and paint you're in business! BTW 71 and up used a different cover on the drivers side that had a second "hump" but no hole thru the hump
i've taken off the tabs and didn't have to add any filler , the only way to tell is if you turn the cover over and see the weld telltales and last i checked show judges do not remove valve covers to see if they are modified 
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/30/08 08:52 AM
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Thanks for all the info. My covers were definitely off a '70 A/C car, so at least I know it was not a 6-pk. I thought the tabs on the driver side were not correct for my car. Sounds like we're in agreement that those pictured by ShakerJoe are correct for my needs (no tabs on driver side cover).
Any other experience with the PlastiDip? I tried the spray PlastiDip, but with six coats, still didn't have adequate buildup. This car is for show, and I am thinking of trying the dip before painting.
Thanks again for all the help.
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/30/08 09:32 AM
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Well, glad to see what people say about this. My opinion... First, I did the research when the internet was a baby, and did it by looking at cars, books, more cars, and talking to original owners and Chrysler techs from the time. I will say that the blasted v/c's DID NOT come off a l/c C body engine, but a 71 383 HP that has been in the family since new. I will also say that they are the same valve covers that have been on all 3 of my 71 Super Bee's, and both of my 70 Roadrunners, all 383 cars. I still have 1 of each the 70 and 71 engines together with these on them. One of my friends has a personal collection of over 700 cars (yes 700). I was fortunate (unfortunate) enough to spend a lot of time there helping him clean up after he was flooded, and saw MANY low mile original cars. He ran a wrecker and had the highway rights, and pulled in some unique stuff, and his knowledge to me is truly amazing. I am curious then, who worked on the assembly line here to confirm these "facts"? Here is a scan from the 70-71 parts book:  Notice that the 340+6 valve covers are clearly noted with their own specific part numbers, both left and right, different for 70 and 71. Now note that the 383-440 part numbers are common for all body styles for the right cover, and the only specific one is the left C body. One would think that if there was a specific 440+6 V/C(especially with different bumps/humps), that it would be in the parts book as such. Now, getting to the assembly line thing, and as was mentioned earlier, did they grind off that tab for the +6 engines? Seems more likely than welding them on to all the others. In my fairly large collection of TSB's I have not come across anything like that. I say never say never or always with Chrysler, so is there anyone here with actual assembly line knowledge to prove/disprove this theory? Anyone have an explanation as to why the Jan. 72 revision of the Chrysler parts book would be wrong? 
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/30/08 11:19 AM
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Thanks for all the info. My covers were definitely off a '70 A/C car, so at least I know it was not a 6-pk. I thought the tabs on the driver side were not correct for my car. Sounds like we're in agreement that those pictured by ShakerJoe are correct for my needs (no tabs on driver side cover).
Any other experience with the PlastiDip? I tried the spray PlastiDip, but with six coats, still didn't have adequate buildup. This car is for show, and I am thinking of trying the dip before painting.
Thanks again for all the help.
Off an A/C car ? If a 70 B or E body had a big block with HP exhaust manifolds it would have the EXACT SAME VALVE COVERS as a car without A/C or with the 6pk .
Here's a money saving tip , REMOVE THE TABS , unless you like blowing money .
I did the plastidip , it take 3 or 4 coats , I dipped the tabs and let the cover hang so the drip would be off the end of the tab,then I trimmed off the excess , dipped it again hung it the same way , repeat till you get the thickness you desire .
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/30/08 11:21 AM
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GITITGONE....Remove the 2 tabs on the drivers side cover and you will have a set of $250.00 1970 440/6 pack valve covers. Those are '70 covers, just not 6 pack ones (indentation on drivers side cover for power brake booster, absence of "hump" that was added to '71 drivers side cover, no indent behind alternator on passenger side like was added in '71.....'71 covers used the same stamping left and right side). If you're not going for Gold, I'd remove the tabs and you'll be the only one that knows they didn't come from the factory that way. I removed them from my covers...
The weld telltale will still be on the inside. Yes you could sand blast the inside but to me that ruins the cover and it would make it suspect , only a fool would pay 250 for a modified set of covers ...
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Re: 70 Challenger 440 6-pk Valve Covers
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05/30/08 11:28 AM
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Anyone have an explanation as to why the Jan. 72 revision of the Chrysler parts book would be wrong?
no explanation needed ...
IT'S A REVISION .
show me a parts book DATED for when Chrysler first released the part numbers for 1970 parts , I'll go out on a limb and guess that book was dated sometime in 1969 .
as far as you having origanl engines wit hthose valve covers on it that it shouldn't have ? assembly line had to keep going , if the engine assembly line ran out of the covers without those tabs then they used what was available , the line worker wasn't going to STOP and remove the tabs
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my 71 gtx 440 oct 70 no second hump cover and NO tabs on the drivers side cover
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