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Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question #654295
03/28/10 10:48 PM
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I got the 440 running for about 10 minutes and then had to shut it down because one valve cover was pouring oil on the headers and I didn't feel like testing my homeowner's policy.

Anyway, when I went to crank it back up, the hot wire for the choke shorted out and smoked my harness pretty good. It'll take a few days to fix that.

Once it's ready to run again, should I change the oil and filter now, or will it be okay to run it another 10 minutes or so to finish the break in and then change it. This sucks.
britt

Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: pwr440] #654296
03/28/10 10:59 PM
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You're good on the oil/filter but the Q is whether to pull the intake and regoop the lobes especially w the no start cranking that has taken place. There is a reason the 20-30 minute proper cam/lifter prescribed breakin is std procedure.


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Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: RapidRobert] #654297
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I would think the breakin lube was gone shortly after it fired up. It fired up fairly quick and then things started going south. thanks for the reply!
britt

Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: pwr440] #654298
03/28/10 11:15 PM
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Quote:

I would think the breakin lube was gone shortly after it fired up.


Yes I may be a bit overly anal on that and I am getting more picky and perfectionistic as the years pile on . Lets see what some of the cam guys have to say


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Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: pwr440] #654299
03/28/10 11:43 PM
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Start it up and run it at least 30minutes. I'd cut the filter at that point and have a look.

Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: pwr440] #654300
03/29/10 12:03 AM
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Quote:

I got the 440 running for about 10 minutes and then had to shut it down because one valve cover was pouring oil on the headers and I didn't feel like testing my homeowner's policy.

Anyway, when I went to crank it back up, the hot wire for the choke shorted out and smoked my harness pretty good. It'll take a few days to fix that.

Once it's ready to run again, should I change the oil and filter now, or will it be okay to run it another 10 minutes or so to finish the break in and then change it. This sucks.
britt




Finish the break in, you'll be fine.

Good to hear it fired up. I was kinda worried about that joker you had degree in the cam. I know you're the electrical whiz, but call me if you need something. I've been trashing a lot of stuff lately, but I still might have what you need.

Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: pwr440] #654301
03/29/10 06:59 AM
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You'll be fine. Pulling the intake to relube the cam would be silly at this point.

Good luck to you.

Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: Challenger 1] #654302
03/29/10 08:35 AM
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read enuff post on here about wiped lobes,bad lifters/cams on fire up due to oil,zink,break in additives and rebuilds with 0 mile only hrs of run time and $$ spent on it

it does sound over kill but I rather go the extra mile with my junk to get it right the first time round

i cant afford it 2x

but with lube sitting on the work bench and an air ratchet there it would be off and lubed agian if it was mine

good luck on the 2x fire up and break in

Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #654303
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Thanks for the replies. At this point, I'm gonna fire it up again. Hopefully, I won't have a "wiped cam post" in a couple weeks.
Dave, the cam is the only thing that's probably right with this build! I think I have another harness that I can use. The under dash repair is gonna be a pain. I'll let ya know

Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: pwr440] #654304
03/29/10 10:53 AM
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If you were going to wipe the cam it would have been early -- in the first minutes. If you got 10 minutes on the first stage you're good. Your lifters are obviously rotating, and you're not running a big solid with a lot of spring. As long as it fires quick on the restart you're fine.

Also, because of the electrical problem, make sure you have 12v at the coil before you start cranking.

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Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: 64Post] #654305
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assuming you have break-in additive/zinc in your oil I would not hesitate to just refire in the least. The first 10 minutes probably accomplished 90% of the actual foot to lobe breakin anyway.
Also--since it fired right up, you're doing better than a lot of engines that have to crank and crank to get the intial start.

Re: Initial fire up and fail today......gotta question [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #654306
03/29/10 11:25 PM
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Update..... I rewired from the ignition switch to the ballast resistor and let her rip! Ran it for @25 minutes and finished the breakin.
britt







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