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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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I have come across a set of original B1 heads, new in the box with valves. They have been sitting in the box for 15 to 20 years. Just wanted to get an idea of what they are worth.
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We have to remember these are "new In Box" so even tho they are old they arent really. So thats why i thought $1800 would be a fair price. But anywhere between 1500 and 1800 would be OK, imho.
James, yes, they are all the same casting, Original, MC, and PSO. The PSO just has a modified intake port location/shape but its worth 20+ CFM over the MC(which flows 450 CFM fully ported)so Pete's PSO head flows 470 CFM...the most for any inline valve head, period.
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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03/26/10 02:30 PM
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I have come across a set of original B1 heads, new in the box with valves. They have been sitting in the box for 15 to 20 years. Just wanted to get an idea of what they are worth.
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We have to remember these are "new In Box" so even tho they are old they arent really. So thats why i thought $1800 would be a fair price. But anywhere between 1500 and 1800 would be OK, imho.
James, yes, they are all the same casting, Original, MC, and PSO. The PSO just has a modified intake port location/shape but its worth 20+ CFM over the MC(which flows 450 CFM fully ported)so Pete's PSO head flows 470 CFM...the most for any inline valve head, period.
I think they have a great design. id dont hear alot of guys buying them recently.Even though they flow much better than a 440-1 or a 572-13.
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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I have come across a set of original B1 heads, new in the box with valves. They have been sitting in the box for 15 to 20 years. Just wanted to get an idea of what they are worth.
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We have to remember these are "new In Box" so even tho they are old they arent really. So thats why i thought $1800 would be a fair price. But anywhere between 1500 and 1800 would be OK, imho.
James, yes, they are all the same casting, Original, MC, and PSO. The PSO just has a modified intake port location/shape but its worth 20+ CFM over the MC(which flows 450 CFM fully ported)so Pete's PSO head flows 470 CFM...the most for any inline valve head, period.
I think they have a great design. id dont hear alot of guys buying them recently.Even though they flow much better than a 440-1 or a 572-13.
You mean the PSO? Well, the price is no doubt the big factor in them not selling, The Indy stuff(except the Predator)is alot cheaper. On the other hand, the PSOs flow about 70 or 80 CFM more than the best 572-13. Is 150 HP worth the extra $$$..i think to some people it would be. For me personally, it would be no contest if i had the money..easy choice, PSO!
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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I figure 50 to 75% of what you can buy them for brand new, based on the fact that they are as good, just no "warranty" that they are OK as is to start with. Nobody asked if it was a kit,(whole top end package) or just heads and valves.
Maybe that is where some of the disagreement comes from.
To figure out what they are worth to you, figure what other costs are involved if you bought them on sale in the fall from Koffels, work from there. Stuff like shipping, tax, etc.
8.582, 160.18 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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I have come across a set of original B1 heads, new in the box with valves. They have been sitting in the box for 15 to 20 years. Just wanted to get an idea of what they are worth.
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We have to remember these are "new In Box" so even tho they are old they arent really. So thats why i thought $1800 would be a fair price. But anywhere between 1500 and 1800 would be OK, imho.
James, yes, they are all the same casting, Original, MC, and PSO. The PSO just has a modified intake port location/shape but its worth 20+ CFM over the MC(which flows 450 CFM fully ported)so Pete's PSO head flows 470 CFM...the most for any inline valve head, period.
I think they have a great design. id dont hear alot of guys buying them recently.Even though they flow much better than a 440-1 or a 572-13.
You mean the PSO? Well, the price is no doubt the big factor in them not selling, The Indy stuff(except the Predator)is alot cheaper. On the other hand, the PSOs flow about 70 or 80 CFM more than the best 572-13. Is 150 HP worth the extra $$$..i think to some people it would be. For me personally, it would be no contest if i had the money..easy choice, PSO!
The B1 originals still flow better than a 572-13 indy head.
PSO's to me are worth the extra $$$$ over any 572-13 head imo.
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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I figure 50 to 75% of what you can buy them for brand new, based on the fact that they are as good, just no "warranty" that they are OK as is to start with. Nobody asked if it was a kit,(whole top end package) or just heads and valves.
Maybe that is where some of the disagreement comes from.
To figure out what they are worth to you, figure what other costs are involved if you bought them on sale in the fall from Koffels, work from there. Stuff like shipping, tax, etc.
Greg, in my first reply I assumed it was not a kit as he said they only came w/valves. I think it would be great to get them for $1500., but you seldom see just the bare heads for sale...so thats why its hard to say exactly what they are worth. 
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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I have come across a set of original B1 heads, new in the box with valves. They have been sitting in the box for 15 to 20 years. Just wanted to get an idea of what they are worth.
Thanks
We have to remember these are "new In Box" so even tho they are old they arent really. So thats why i thought $1800 would be a fair price. But anywhere between 1500 and 1800 would be OK, imho.
James, yes, they are all the same casting, Original, MC, and PSO. The PSO just has a modified intake port location/shape but its worth 20+ CFM over the MC(which flows 450 CFM fully ported)so Pete's PSO head flows 470 CFM...the most for any inline valve head, period.
I think they have a great design. id dont hear alot of guys buying them recently.Even though they flow much better than a 440-1 or a 572-13.
You mean the PSO? Well, the price is no doubt the big factor in them not selling, The Indy stuff(except the Predator)is alot cheaper. On the other hand, the PSOs flow about 70 or 80 CFM more than the best 572-13. Is 150 HP worth the extra $$$..i think to some people it would be. For me personally, it would be no contest if i had the money..easy choice, PSO!
The B1 originals still flow better than a 572-13 indy head.
PSO's to me are worth the extra $$$$ over any 572-13 head imo.
OK, you were making a general statement on the B1 series. Well, thats true, even the the Original out flows most 572-13s that i've seen.
As far as guys buying B1s..or switching to B1s, i have to disagree, more and more are running them all the time, imho. I know you have switched yourself, right superstockracer? 
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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I have come across a set of original B1 heads, new in the box with valves. They have been sitting in the box for 15 to 20 years. Just wanted to get an idea of what they are worth.
Thanks
We have to remember these are "new In Box" so even tho they are old they arent really. So thats why i thought $1800 would be a fair price. But anywhere between 1500 and 1800 would be OK, imho.
James, yes, they are all the same casting, Original, MC, and PSO. The PSO just has a modified intake port location/shape but its worth 20+ CFM over the MC(which flows 450 CFM fully ported)so Pete's PSO head flows 470 CFM...the most for any inline valve head, period.
I think they have a great design. id dont hear alot of guys buying them recently.Even though they flow much better than a 440-1 or a 572-13.
You mean the PSO? Well, the price is no doubt the big factor in them not selling, The Indy stuff(except the Predator)is alot cheaper. On the other hand, the PSOs flow about 70 or 80 CFM more than the best 572-13. Is 150 HP worth the extra $$$..i think to some people it would be. For me personally, it would be no contest if i had the money..easy choice, PSO!
The B1 originals still flow better than a 572-13 indy head.
PSO's to me are worth the extra $$$$ over any 572-13 head imo.
OK, you were making a general statement on the B1 series. Well, thats true, even the the Original out flows most 572-13s that i've seen.
As far as guys buying B1s..or switching to B1s, i have to disagree, more and more are running them all the time, imho. I know you have switched yourself, right superstockracer?
i have made the switch over from indy to the B1 TS heads.
i bought a set of B1 originals and then decided if i was going to build a strong motor why settle and go for the best.The TS heads were my choice, as far a cost and proven power,it was hands down a better choice than originals.
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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Now that this post came up I am thinking about selling my B1 M/C's but they sure wont go as cheap as $2000, mine are fully cnc'd with tit valves.... he11 I have better than $800 in just the intake valves... plus I plan on selling the Jesel 1.7 rockers with them.... I think I'm gonna sell all of my race BB stuff.... I have MOST of the stuff for the engine I was going to build(lacking a cam) 
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Re: wiw original B1 heads
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03/26/10 05:07 PM
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Now that this post came up I am thinking about selling
my B1 M/C's but they sure wont go as cheap as $2000,
mine are fully cnc'd with tit valves.... he11 I have
better than $800 in just the intake valves... plus I
plan on selling the Jesel 1.7 rockers with them....
I think I'm gonna sell all of my race BB stuff....
I have MOST of the stuff for the engine I was going
to build(lacking a cam)
Mike, are yours new and never run?
you got me ing.
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