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4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! #650437
03/24/10 07:53 PM
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I've got an 4150 that was older, but new. I put a full holley kit in it, just to make sure the gaskets were perfect. It's dumping fuel out the boosters. Not a drip, but a steading gush. I've changed needle and seat 3 times, no luck. It's just the secondary. I even changed the bowl, just to make sure it wasn't a float problem. It's a 440 with a stock replacement carter pump, not a high pressure unit. Fuel does not come out the vent. Any ideas?

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: todd440] #650438
03/24/10 07:55 PM
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sounds like a float problem.


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Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #650439
03/24/10 07:58 PM
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Never had one do it in the secondaries but in the primaries it was a blown power valve...Now I just block them-off...

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: Mr.Yuck] #650440
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It's weird. No power valve, and I've ruled out the float by changing the bowl. If it were a pressure issue, I'd think the front would be leaking as well.

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: todd440] #650441
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is fuel running out at float level check hole with plug removed?

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: sam64] #650442
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throw it in the trash and replace it with an Edelbrock 750m


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Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: Supercuda] #650443
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You seem pretty sure it's not the float. There is a plug instead of the rear power valve, right? Wrong gaskets maybe? Can you swap the rear metering block to the front and see if the problem moves?

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: Supercuda] #650444
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Quote:

throw it in the trash and replace it with an Edelbrock 750m




if you want the car to slow down


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Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: 69RTSE] #650445
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If the float has a hole in it and is sunk, nothing you do will fix it short of replacing the float with a good one.

I rebuilt a 750 Vac sec recently that had sat for a number of years, float sunk and it spewed fuel everywhere. Replaced the float, runs great.

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: RobX4406] #650446
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Well, I ended up changing the rear bowl and metering block, same problem. I hooked up a pressure gauge, only to find 11 psi out of the stock carter pump. This is the stock replacement style pump. I've never seen one that high.

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: todd440] #650447
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This is the stock replacement style pump.


Which one?


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Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: RapidRobert] #650448
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It's the m4845, which is a muscle car replacement for 70-71 cars, rated at 5.5 psi, or so they say.

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: todd440] #650449
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From what I understand the spring stiffness (plus the passage dia's) controls the psi and the lobe reloads (compresses the spring) so I'm wondering if an assembly line guy accidently (or on purpose ) put the wrong spring in there as it was going down the line


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Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: RapidRobert] #650450
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I've had problems with that fuel pump in the past, mine pumped out 10+ psi & blew past the needle/seats, get you a different pump.


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Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: joedust451] #650451
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if your needle isn't seating properly you can have this problem.
i know with my carb the jet extenders can cause interference with the floats also.


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Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! [Re: Mr T2U] #650452
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I just switched to a new carter M4589, stock style pump, and the pressure is 6 psi. All is well.







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