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4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!!

Posted By: todd440

4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/24/10 11:53 PM

I've got an 4150 that was older, but new. I put a full holley kit in it, just to make sure the gaskets were perfect. It's dumping fuel out the boosters. Not a drip, but a steading gush. I've changed needle and seat 3 times, no luck. It's just the secondary. I even changed the bowl, just to make sure it wasn't a float problem. It's a 440 with a stock replacement carter pump, not a high pressure unit. Fuel does not come out the vent. Any ideas?
Posted By: Mr.Yuck

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/24/10 11:55 PM

sounds like a float problem.
Posted By: QuickBpBp

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/24/10 11:58 PM

Never had one do it in the secondaries but in the primaries it was a blown power valve...Now I just block them-off...
Posted By: todd440

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/25/10 01:13 AM

It's weird. No power valve, and I've ruled out the float by changing the bowl. If it were a pressure issue, I'd think the front would be leaking as well.
Posted By: sam64

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/25/10 01:19 AM

is fuel running out at float level check hole with plug removed?
Posted By: Supercuda

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/25/10 01:30 AM

throw it in the trash and replace it with an Edelbrock 750m
Posted By: 69RTSE

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/25/10 02:15 AM

You seem pretty sure it's not the float. There is a plug instead of the rear power valve, right? Wrong gaskets maybe? Can you swap the rear metering block to the front and see if the problem moves?
Posted By: dusturbd340W5

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/25/10 02:21 AM

Quote:

throw it in the trash and replace it with an Edelbrock 750m




if you want the car to slow down
Posted By: RobX4406

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/25/10 05:20 AM

If the float has a hole in it and is sunk, nothing you do will fix it short of replacing the float with a good one.

I rebuilt a 750 Vac sec recently that had sat for a number of years, float sunk and it spewed fuel everywhere. Replaced the float, runs great.
Posted By: todd440

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/27/10 10:23 AM

Well, I ended up changing the rear bowl and metering block, same problem. I hooked up a pressure gauge, only to find 11 psi out of the stock carter pump. This is the stock replacement style pump. I've never seen one that high.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/27/10 12:58 PM

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This is the stock replacement style pump.


Which one?
Posted By: todd440

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/27/10 01:45 PM

It's the m4845, which is a muscle car replacement for 70-71 cars, rated at 5.5 psi, or so they say.
Posted By: RapidRobert

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/27/10 02:00 PM

From what I understand the spring stiffness (plus the passage dia's) controls the psi and the lobe reloads (compresses the spring) so I'm wondering if an assembly line guy accidently (or on purpose ) put the wrong spring in there as it was going down the line
Posted By: joedust451

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/27/10 03:26 PM

I've had problems with that fuel pump in the past, mine pumped out 10+ psi & blew past the needle/seats, get you a different pump.
Posted By: Mr T2U

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/27/10 09:12 PM

if your needle isn't seating properly you can have this problem.
i know with my carb the jet extenders can cause interference with the floats also.
Posted By: todd440

Re: 4150 carb guru's......pouring venturi's!!! - 03/27/10 11:18 PM

I just switched to a new carter M4589, stock style pump, and the pressure is 6 psi. All is well.
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