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Engine Leak Saga. #63869
05/26/08 01:08 PM
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Does the oil pan need to be dropped on these for the cover to be replaced/re-gasketed?





Thanks for any help.

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63870
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usually just the timing chain cover gasket comes with the front seal and some small cork pan gaskets, you cut the old ones and kinda splice the new strips in there.


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Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63871
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There are two bolts in the front of oil pan that have to come off, they screw into timing cover. get damper off and the cover will come right off.

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63872
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couple bolts need to come out of the pan is all.

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: snuggles] #63873
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Thanks.


Reason for asking, I noticed the 'big' kit comes with the front gasket for the oil pan.. kind of had me worried.

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63874
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Fix your squealing belt?

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: mopars4ever] #63875
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Fix your squealing belt?






Don't know, again. Coolant mixed with oil again. Let it drain and that's that until I fix it.


However, the alternator was about 2mm back, so I moved it up that.. hopefully that does it.

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63876
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However, the alternator was about 2mm back, so I moved it up that.. hopefully that does it.




2mm? we dont speak metrics here, SAE please


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Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #63877
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However, the alternator was about 2mm back, so I moved it up that.. hopefully that does it.




2mm? we dont speak metrics here, SAE please




That doesnt soudn like something a traitor BMW tech would say

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #63878
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However, the alternator was about 2mm back, so I moved it up that.. hopefully that does it.




2mm? we dont speak metrics here, SAE please




OT, what size are metric ratchets, since 1/4" 3/8" and 1/2" are too complex for most of the world to figure out?


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: jcc] #63879
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I misplaced one of the water jacket bolts for the cover. I had replaced it with a bolt from work. Now, another dumb question (I'm good at racking these up)

If the bolt was improper in anyway, could that cause it to leak through and be causing the oil/coolant mixture?



Thanks.

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63880
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Did you get a new cover? Is the one your trying to use corroded?

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63881
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If the bolt was improper in anyway, could that cause it to leak through and be causing the oil/coolant mixture?




Just as long as the bolt is clamping tight no. You need to get those threads oil free by wire brushing them off and squirting them with Brake Parts Cleaner. Then put a light coating of Permatex RTV on those threads to keep the coolant in the block where it belongs. Let the RTV set up for 15 minutes before putting the bolt back in. I always coat the timing chain and water pump gaskets on both side with a very thin film of Permatex RTV after getting them oil free and very clean.

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: snuggles] #63882
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Did you get a new cover? Is the one your trying to use corroded?





Not yet, I work stupid hours and I'm slowly getting it apart. All I have to do is pull the bottom pulley off and damper tomorrow(hopefully)

I've just become severely paranoid now because it's one thing after another.


The bottom pulley is just the 6 bolts, and the crank bolt and the pulley and damper should come off no problem(knock on wood) Correct?

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63883
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you need a puller for the dampner.

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Is this the tool I need? If so, approx. how long is it? I'm trying to do this with the motor/radiator in.





Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63885
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can't see the pic here, but you might want to pull the rad just to give you more room to work and so you don't damage it. usually just 4 bolts and it's out.

Gary

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63886
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Quote:

I misplaced one of the water jacket bolts for the cover. I had replaced it with a bolt from work. Now, another dumb question (I'm good at racking these up)

If the bolt was improper in anyway, could that cause it to leak through and be causing the oil/coolant mixture?

If the bolt you repalced was the lower one on the drivers side and the replacement bolt was too long it will punch a hole in the #1 cylinder and cause a major coolant leak straight into the oil pan
Hope that's not the case



Thanks.



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If the bolt you repalced was the lower one on the drivers side and the replacement bolt was too long it will punch a hole in the #1 cylinder and cause a major coolant leak straight into the oil pan
Hope that's not the case










The first bolt I tried was longer. I didn't really tighten it, just put it in enough to see if it worked. Maybe that's what happened to be my luck.

Re: Small Block Timing Cover. [Re: Fluffy] #63888
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I went out, put a screwdriver in it and marked it as close as possible.. Lined it up with the bolt I used. Let me know what you think.









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