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head torque spec? I got 3 different answers.... #629400
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I am reassembling my 440. I usually torque to 75 ft lbs, but thought I'd check my books to see what they say. 2 different Chiltons books..one says 70, one says 75, and the Mopar Performance building guide says to take them to 100. What does the jury say? I've never had one leak at 75lbs....
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I thought the oem manual was 70 but I don't seem to remember stuff as well as I used to.

Not sure where 100 came from, but here's no way those fasteners are made for that.

The head bolts in something this old were not torque to yield. I doubt 70 or 75 will make a difference as long as you torque them in the right sequence, in two steps, and evenly.

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I would not be afraid of 100. My 67 "glenns" shows 85 for a SB and the SA design stroker bible shows 95 for stock 1/2-13NC head bolts probably due to only 10 head bolts per side (SB). I would go in a half dozen steps (doesn't take that long)once you get in a rhythem which (multiple steps) gives you more clamping force in a more even gradual pattern over the head area.


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I would not be afraid of 100. My 67 "glenns" shows 85 for a SB and the SA design stroker bible shows 95 for stock 1/2-13NC head bolts probably due to only 10 head bolts per side (SB). I would go in a half dozen steps (doesn't take that long)once you get in a rhythem which (multiple steps) gives you more clamping force in a more even gradual pattern over the head area.




Big block bolts aren't 1/2 inch. That's why 100 would be foolish.
AND unnecessary, since there are 17 per side, instead of 10 on a SB. The torque is spread out very evenly, and head gasket failure is virtually non existant on these things.

I'm not sure how you would make it into 6 steps. I've done it three before, but even that seemed unnecessary(factory spec is two steps) When the steps get too short, you don't get a clean sweep on the torque wrench, which makes the torque reading questionable. A short jerk on the wrench is not accurate. The bolt needs to turn in clean even motion for a good reading.

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I would not be afraid of 100. My 67 "glenns" shows 85 for a SB and the SA design stroker bible shows 95 for stock 1/2-13NC head bolts probably due to only 10 head bolts per side (SB). I would go in a half dozen steps (doesn't take that long)once you get in a rhythem which (multiple steps) gives you more clamping force in a more even gradual pattern over the head area.




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these are iron heads with new bolts right, alum with arp studs will get you two more different answers

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70-75
460 fords use 100+, but I wouldn't pull a BBM that hard.
I'd suggest finding a bolt torque chart that you are comfotable with and matches most of the specs for your engine and use that as a backup for numbers that don't seem right or have multiple specs.
Example:
http://www.portlandbolt.com/technicalinformation/bolt-torque-chart.html

As ARP and others will tell you, the threads, lube and wrench all change the reading, so the most important thing is to get them all even.
The second important thing is to get them to the right clamping force. That's where the chart comes in. That is the typical clamping for the fastener, and as you can see, there is a difference depending on grade/material.

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