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Belt question #624715 02/26/10 12:04 AM 02/26/10 12:04 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 637 Kokomo,IN StripeHOG OP mopar
StripeHOG OP mopar Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 637 Kokomo,IN	at what ET are SFI belt's required??? Andrew Brough D372 1969 Dodge Dart GTS 1.43 60'best 6.82 1/8 98mph "the light came on and I ran out of talent"

Re: Belt question [Re: StripeHOG] #624716 02/26/10 12:50 AM 02/26/10 12:50 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: at what ET are SFI belt's required??? I'm not home so I dont have a book but I believe its when you need a roll bar... and your already there

Re: Belt question [Re: MR_P_BODY] #624717 02/26/10 10:39 AM 02/26/10 10:39 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 637 Kokomo,IN StripeHOG OP mopar
StripeHOG OP mopar Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 637 Kokomo,IN	I have them now but, mine are expired, and if I slow my car too 12.00 I hope I don't need them to save some money Andrew Brough D372 1969 Dodge Dart GTS 1.43 60'best 6.82 1/8 98mph "the light came on and I ran out of talent"

Re: Belt question [Re: StripeHOG] #624718 02/26/10 06:54 PM 02/26/10 06:54 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 257 madison, ohio modified1090 enthusiast
modified1090 enthusiast Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 257 madison, ohio	Quote: I have them now but, mine are expired, and if I slow my car too 12.00 I hope I don't need them to save some money A quick-release, 3-inch shoulder harness meeting SFI Spec 16.1 is mandatory in all cars in competition required by the rules to have a roll bar or a roll cage. (Permitted in all other classes.) Driverrestraint system must be clearly labeled as meeting SFI Spec 16.1 and be dated by manufacturer. a roll bar is reqired all cars running 11.49 or quicker.. this is per the 2008 nhra rule book.

Re: Belt question [Re: modified1090] #624719 02/26/10 06:56 PM 02/26/10 06:56 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 257 madison, ohio modified1090 enthusiast
modified1090 enthusiast Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 257 madison, ohio	i have this 2008 rule book in PDF format and i would be happy to send it to anyone via email.. the file is too large to attach here.

Re: Belt question [Re: modified1090] #624720 02/26/10 07:01 PM 02/26/10 07:01 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,749 Chowchilla,ca Chassisman master
Chassisman master Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,749 Chowchilla,ca	IF...you run 12.00 with a roll bar in the car....you HAVE TO HAVE CURRENT belts....It's stupid but it's the rule....now if you cut the bar out....ran 12's...and used a 40yo old lap belt you would be legal...but as soon as you weld in a bar you fall under the roll bar guidelines reguardless of ET....ASK ME HOW I KNOW !!!

Re: Belt question [Re: Chassisman] #624721 02/26/10 07:05 PM 02/26/10 07:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Quote: IF...you run 12.00 with a roll bar in the car....you HAVE TO HAVE CURRENT belts....It's stupid but it's the rule....now if you cut the bar out....ran 12's...and used a 40yo old lap belt you would be legal...but as soon as you weld in a bar you fall under the roll bar guidelines reguardless of ET....ASK ME HOW I KNOW !!! I guess that answers my question

Re: Belt question [Re: Chassisman] #624722 02/26/10 07:08 PM 02/26/10 07:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 257 madison, ohio modified1090 enthusiast
modified1090 enthusiast Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 257 madison, ohio	Quote: IF...you run 12.00 with a roll bar in the car....you HAVE TO HAVE CURRENT belts....It's stupid but it's the rule....now if you cut the bar out....ran 12's...and used a 40yo old lap belt you would be legal...but as soon as you weld in a bar you fall under the roll bar guidelines reguardless of ET....ASK ME HOW I KNOW !!! i have been fighting that one with my window net for years now. i have a cage in the car but is not required due to my ET. the window net expired about ten years ago or something like that.

Re: Belt question [Re: modified1090] #624723 02/26/10 07:22 PM 02/26/10 07:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Quote: the window net expired about ten years ago or something like that. Is it ribbon or mesh? I think only the mesh style needs to be recerted.

Re: Belt question [Re: modified1090] #624724 02/26/10 07:30 PM 02/26/10 07:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada RemCharger master
RemCharger master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada	Quote: Quote: IF...you run 12.00 with a roll bar in the car....you HAVE TO HAVE CURRENT belts....It's stupid but it's the rule....now if you cut the bar out....ran 12's...and used a 40yo old lap belt you would be legal...but as soon as you weld in a bar you fall under the roll bar guidelines reguardless of ET....ASK ME HOW I KNOW !!! i have been fighting that one with my window net for years now. i have a cage in the car but is not required due to my ET. the window net expired about ten years ago or something like that. I don't have a book here,but I thought it said "window net required when [ROLLCAGE IS REQUIRED]". The way I read it is you may have a cage, but if you don't run 9s you don't need a net.

Re: Belt question [Re: RemCharger] #624725 02/26/10 07:35 PM 02/26/10 07:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Quote: I don't have a book here,but I thought it said "window net required when [ROLLCAGE IS REQUIRED]". The way I read it is you may have a cage, but if you don't run 9s you don't need a net. Very True, but try explaining that to the tech inspector who "knows everything"

Re: Belt question [Re: WILD BILL] #624726 02/26/10 09:02 PM 02/26/10 09:02 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 637 Kokomo,IN StripeHOG OP mopar
StripeHOG OP mopar Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 637 Kokomo,IN	Andrew Brough D372 1969 Dodge Dart GTS 1.43 60'best 6.82 1/8 98mph "the light came on and I ran out of talent"

Re: Belt question [Re: modified1090] #624727 02/26/10 09:44 PM 02/26/10 09:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,533 Alexandria, LA B Blucuda413 master
Blucuda413 master B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,533 Alexandria, LA	Modified, if you have a ribbon window net they do not expire. Only the mesh nets expire every 2 years. The rules have been rewritten some over the last few years and I believe it's easier to understand now. I bought nets for years until I really read the rules and then questioned NHRA about what they meant Altho it's clearer in the NHRA book it is explicit in the IHRA book.

Re: Belt question [Re: RemCharger] #624728 02/26/10 10:22 PM 02/26/10 10:22 PM
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio C CHAPPER master
CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	I wonder...say you mailed $200.00 a month to NHRA during race season,,,MAYBE they would send you a 'card' that you could show to the tech guys at ALL tracks and they would "PASS" you without checking anything? It would be cheaper and NHRA would still get their money...just from the racers instead of the 'safety equipment' manufactures. Just thought...bad idea...the economy is bad enough now, without all the safety manufactures closing down. If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Belt question [Re: CHAPPER] #624729 02/27/10 01:46 AM 02/27/10 01:46 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada RemCharger master
RemCharger master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,825 Sk. Canada	We have those.. they're called ETI's.

Re: Belt question [Re: WILD BILL] #624730 02/27/10 03:06 PM 02/27/10 03:06 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 257 madison, ohio modified1090 enthusiast
modified1090 enthusiast Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 257 madison, ohio	Quote: Quote: the window net expired about ten years ago or something like that. Is it ribbon or mesh? I think only the mesh style needs to be recerted. i have one something like this. they do have a sfi tag and are dated 5833684-gfr-4131rd_w_s.jpg (11 downloads)

Re: Belt question [Re: modified1090] #624731 02/27/10 03:24 PM 02/27/10 03:24 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club
WILD BILL Senior Member of the Junior Dragster Club Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,542 BROOK PARK, OH	Quote: A ribbon type window net does not expire, unless it is torn or battered. Last line in the 2010 rule book, general sec page 20.27 Mesh nets must be within 2 yrs of date.

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