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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: 6bblFLASH] #621761
10/21/12 01:35 PM
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I didn't know MP made a 114 centerline 509???

Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: Mr.Yuck] #621762
10/21/12 03:20 PM
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Yes they`ve reground some of them. the 484 and 509 are now 114 c/l.


70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas
9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ!
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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: 6bblFLASH] #621763
10/23/12 04:13 AM
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Gilroy,CA.
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some of yall that have the 174/177 blowers, can you please show pics of the crank pulley? or adapter if there is one?


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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: mopardude318] #621764
10/23/12 05:53 PM
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Anyone pics on mod man intake?

Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: 6bblFLASH] #621765
11/25/12 01:19 PM
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I found an original 162ci B&M blower kit for small block mopar, new never used off of craigslist. I purchased it, I should have it by tuesday...I'll update with pics once I get it.


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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: mopardude318] #621766
11/27/12 03:30 AM
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Finally got it. Found it from a guy in Michigan. he was kind enough to hold it for me while I saved some cash for it....Completely new...everything is NOS never used. B&M 162ci blower kit for small chrysler.



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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: mopardude318] #621767
11/29/12 02:33 PM
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I started to do some minor mock up today starting with the pulleys. Because I have an aftermarket set of billet aluminum pulleys, I needed to machine the center register on my crank pulley roughly .010" of an inch for it to fit over the center register of the blower pulley spacer. Luckily, my girlfriends brother is a machinist, and has a lathe in his garage.





Here you can see the center register does not fit inside the crank pulley.



So on the lathe it goes.





Now it all fits together nicely.





Here it is bolted on:



Now the next problem. In the already very tight engine compartment, my mechanical clutch fan blades hits the blower pulley! LOL





This shows you I cannot space my fan out any further, as I am already dangerously close to the aftermarket aluminum radiator.



SO.....I guess my current plan is to switch to a dual electric fan setup, which will be out of the way of the blower pulley....I will update the thread when i figure that out and get some fans mounted....

...whenever the hell that'll be....lol


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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: mopardude318] #621768
11/29/12 02:46 PM
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cool, no need for electric fans just ditch the clutch fan and get the cheap 18.5" plastic fan from Summit and get a shroud.

Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: Mr.Yuck] #621769
11/29/12 03:04 PM
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Look into a Chevy HHR fan. You can get one from Rockauto.com for about $60 shipped. It works like a champ and is low profile.

http://www.customdakotas.com/forums/v8-performance/11377-hhr-fan-installed.html

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframec...1115394-3378837

Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: Mr.Yuck] #621770
11/30/12 08:52 PM
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Quote:

cool, no need for electric fans just ditch the clutch fan and get the cheap 18.5" plastic fan from Summit and get a shroud.




I'll have to research that and see what I could find out..it would have to have less pitch than the one I have, wouldn't it?


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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: TheOtherDodge] #621771
11/30/12 08:55 PM
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Quote:

Look into a Chevy HHR fan. You can get one from Rockauto.com for about $60 shipped. It works like a champ and is low profile.

http://www.customdakotas.com/forums/v8-performance/11377-hhr-fan-installed.html

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframec...1115394-3378837




I also looked into that, and the fan from a ford taurus. Unfortunately, they are both too big to fit my radiator. I think I am forced to stay the same size as my core on my Afco radiator.

I'm at 5 & 1/2" from the front of the balancer to the front of the blower drive pulley.



I thought about reducing the blower pulley's outside diameter so it fits inside the crank pulley...And that COULD in fact work....I think...

But before I start modifying this stuff, I'm gonna try a couple things first. I pulled my mechanical fan off, and started taking measurements to build a shroud, to use with electrics fans. Either ONE single large fan, or TWO smaller fans is what I have to work with. I have an Afco radiator that has a core width of 20" and core height of 17.5". So thats what the shroud needs to be to. From what I've read it's recommended to shroud the whole surface of the core for use of electric fans.



3 1/4" from the water pump pulley bolts to the radiator.



2 5/8" blower pulley to radiator. Really tight, I know. :/



proto type shroud: LOL













I'll need some pretty thin electric fans, But can get away with thicker ones if they are off set.





I will try to find some fans that fit my needs. I'm probably making this part harder on myself. I should bolt on the shorter snout, cut down the blower pulley and spacer, and be done with it. LOL

Last edited by mopardude318; 11/30/12 08:58 PM.

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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: mopardude318] #621772
12/01/12 12:13 AM
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Brookeville, Md
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yeah man you don't have much room. Looks like electric fan for you.

Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: Mr.Yuck] #621773
12/01/12 12:36 AM
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Great Neck,LI,new york
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Is there room in front of the radiator for electric fans?

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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: hemi-itis] #621774
12/01/12 01:25 AM
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Quote:

Is there room in front of the radiator for electric fans?




I think I am only limited to this fan here:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/prm-19120/overview/

I THINK I can run 2 of those with that shroud I was talking about if I make it...

Those fans put out 2350 CFM each, at 7 AMP draw. Im not sure at all how it works when you use 2 of those...Does it double the CFM to 4700 and draws 14 AMPS?

I don't know...I just started researching electric fans today..trying to read all I can....




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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: CW25] #621775
12/25/12 09:44 PM
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Been away for a while, been slowly gathering other parts needed for this swap.

I am in the market for a carburetor. What would you guys recommend? I have my eye on the Holley line of supercharger carburetors, like the 750 mechanical secondary manual choke version.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-0-80573s

There is also one with no choke, and a few more additional features...like "screw-in air bleeds for added tuning, a notched float, and jet extensions to prevent fuel starvation. Other features include a 4-corner idle system, and dual 30cc or 50cc accelerator pumps"

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-0-80576s

How would the above carbs work with an automatic?

I Haven't found a supercharger specific carb with vacuum secondaries...

Any thoughts...anyone?


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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: mopardude318] #621776
12/25/12 11:10 PM
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I USED OOTB 850'S WITH CHOKE REMOVED AND THAY WORKED GREAT SQ JETTED blocked pv's[caps off]The carbs worked good to 10%OD on the 8-71 8lbs of boost.


GOTBOOST!New improved with Victor heads.
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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: hemi-itis] #621777
12/25/12 11:17 PM
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Quote:

Is there room in front of the radiator for electric fans?


Now hemi-itis, I gotta ask....why in the world did you speed hole the hell out of your fan shroud? The fans are supposed to pull air ONLY through the radiator fin area.


Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210
Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: DusterDave] #621778
04/23/13 09:50 PM
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Small update. I decided it would be better to use a 1" shorter blower snout. Here it is installed on the blower. That way I could use the mechanical fan, now I have to machine 1" off the blower pulley spacer. :blob:



After months of saving little by little, and a 10% off coupon from summit, I finally was able to purchase the recommended Felpro 1008 head gaskets, a Holley 750 supercharger carb, and the MSD 6BTM ignition box.



Next big thing on the list is the Water/Methanol injection system. This, combined with the boost retard ignition should dramatically reduce the chances of detonation. Helping the engine along to surviving. :happy8:


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Re: B&M Supercharger [Re: mopardude318] #621779
08/15/14 06:21 PM
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I have Decided I need one of these on my d150..
Does anyone have or know ANY parts for this for sale? I would at least like to find an intake.

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