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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: maximum entropy] #619957
02/25/10 03:26 PM
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..and he KNOWS how to cash that hefty pay-check !


Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: dOoC] #619958
02/25/10 03:27 PM
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Hey Guyz ... something INTERESTING I feel I should add to this conversation .....

Last nite(2am-ish) I was doing some cruising-of-topics and went into WHO'S ONLINE and GUESS WHO was reading this topic ? ....

.... NDragster !

..... and like Sgt Schlutz ...... he says and "knows" NOTHING ? .. !!



Who cares? Perhaps they'll get a clue????

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: cudasteve68] #619959
02/25/10 04:26 PM
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How would you feel if someone posted videos of your wife being killed in a freak accident.
NHRA pulled them for a reason.



and it was so nice of NHRA to keep racing.
i have a lot to say but wont.useless here to try.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: blownzoom440] #619960
02/25/10 04:33 PM
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Maybe my few negative comments about NHRA on here is why I haven`t recieved my membership package after almost two months. Pin, Patch, decal etc.


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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: 11secdart] #619961
02/25/10 04:50 PM
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Maybe my few negative comments about NHRA on here is why I haven`t recieved my membership package after almost two months. Pin, Patch, decal etc.


SHAME! at least i had the common sense to wait until my stuff was in hand. of course, i'm sure they'll be looking very closely at my dipstick on opening day!


for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: maximum entropy] #619962
02/25/10 05:38 PM
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Thats thinking with your dipstick I`m still getting N.D. though my membership expired in Jan. and I got the credit card statement so they got the $$$.


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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: 11secdart] #619963
02/25/10 05:44 PM
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Fwiw.. I attend alot of Nhra national events..
if ...God forbid i die during or at an event..
buy all means please continue the races after my issues have been addressed...
id hate to spoil the day for everyone...
no kidding...

unless i am electricuted by a loose wire...then by all means fix the wire...
then proceed with the show...

cheapst.


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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #619964
02/25/10 05:46 PM
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Fwiw.. I attend alot of Nhra national events..
if ...God forbid i die during or at an event..
buy all means please continue the races after my issues have been addressed...
id hate to spoil the day for everyone...
no kidding...

unless i am electricuted by a loose wire...then by all means fix the wire...
then proceed with the show...

cheapst.



Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #619965
02/25/10 05:52 PM
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Fwiw.. I attend alot of Nhra national events..
if ...God forbid i die during or at an event..
buy all means please continue the races after my issues have been addressed...
id hate to spoil the day for everyone...
no kidding...

unless i am electricuted by a loose wire...then by all means fix the wire...
then proceed with the show...

cheapst.




Exactly. Some people seem to have an exaggerated sense of importance in the overall scheme of things. Maybe we should also close down a freeway for a few days after a fatal accident?

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: BobR] #619966
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Fwiw.. I attend alot of Nhra national events..
if ...God forbid i die during or at an event..
buy all means please continue the races after my issues have been addressed...
id hate to spoil the day for everyone...
no kidding...

unless i am electricuted by a loose wire...then by all means fix the wire...
then proceed with the show...

cheapst.




Exactly. Some people seem to have an exaggerated sense of importance in the overall scheme of things. Maybe we should also close down a freeway for a few days after a fatal accident?




So maybe I shouldn't be so upset when they now close it down for maybe 8 hours to "investigate" a fatality, the whole world has to stop for someone that left hours ago.

So I wonder if Seaworld is yanking Utube videos?


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Challenger 1] #619967
02/25/10 09:21 PM
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And BobR is correct. There is only one reason that P/S and PS/B run BEFORE the fuel cars. The stands would be empty if they didn't. Every class from P/S on down is merely space filler between rounds of fuel.




Not true

The main reason PS run in front of the fuelers is because of the clutch dust the fuelers leave on the track.





Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: Prostock] #619968
02/26/10 01:13 AM
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The call I got a couple of hours ago said that a S/C door car was on the roof in the left lane at 1,000 foot mark.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: mopacltd] #619969
02/26/10 09:15 AM
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The call I got a couple of hours ago said that a S/C door car was on the roof in the left lane at 1,000 foot mark.



Was that at the divisional this weekend?

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: mopacltd] #619970
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The call I got a couple of hours ago said that a S/C door car was on the roof in the left lane at 1,000 foot mark.




C'mon ChuckO',
S/C door car is just a Pro-Stocker with a t-stop!!


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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: MoparBilly] #619971
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The call I got a couple of hours ago said that a S/C door car was on the roof in the left lane at 1,000 foot mark.




C'mon ChuckO',
S/C door car is just a Pro-Stocker with a t-stop!!




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Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #619972
02/26/10 11:37 AM
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speak for yourself, because right here is someone that enjoys Super class racing, and its not the sugar coated finish line excuses that you said. I also know many others that enjoy watching it.
I enjoy it because of the engineering side of it, what they are doing to make the car do what its doing.






That's the problem - I DID like watching the Super class cars, in the early days when cars left the line at full throttle and stayed there most of the way, but all that "engineering" you speak of that's so interesting one day is going to be the death of them at the national event level.
Drag racings' most unique feature is a full acceleration start. Anything less SUCKS - period. Your throttle stop and timer ruin it for the majority of spectators - THE PAYING CUSTOMERS. Forget about not needing fans at some Bracket Bash - we're talking about National events. NHRA seems to keep thinking of more new forms and classes to squeeze into the show - well, guess what, an event is only so many hours and so many days long. Now, if you were Compton or some other NHRA business man, and had to trim something from the program for some new class, which classes would YOU trim? That's right, the ones where the fans leave the stands. They've already done it to some of Stock, S/S and Super Street, where else can they trim? And I can bet that there will STILL be more people interested in 8 second wheel standing SS/AH and 9 second stockers than the Super Class cars at a National event - hell, even the nitro teams watch the SS Hemi Shootout.

Yup, Super Class racing of today - real interesting....Look how clever this guy was to string together all these timers and electro-pneumatic devices just so he could....Hurry up, wait....then hurry up again, then wait some more at the top end.... endlessly thrilling, if you're engrossed in the engineering it takes to do that, but like having root canal to everyone else.





the majority of the spectators are not there to watch anything else but what they see on TV...

youre talking all over the board about things that dont matter, or personally I dont care about. if you dont like some of the classes that are running, then go get your spectator goodie bag, grab your autographs, and wait for the things you like to run.
MEANWHILE, you did it again, you are speaking for a whole lot of people, based on your narrow views.
I wrote and said that I like super racing, and you just put it down like what you think is what matters, whats wrong with you? why cant you just say something like, you know, I dont care for that type of racing, but if its something you enjoy, for whatever reason, then I'm glad theres something for you to see.

seriously what is wrong with some of you people?




i hate to bash..but judging by the fans left in the seats during super runs..he's not the one in the minority..
by the way ...i waved at you up there at the top of the stands.....all by your self....
you never wave back...
i always wondered who that guy was..in the stands
cheapst.




I've done my share of bracket racing over the years, never competed at a National Event or a Divisional. Even considered building a Super Gas car in the early 90's, til I saw where things were going with the electronics and such...

I've been on both sides of the fence, and can see a particular race from both perspectives - a competitor, and a spectator (and not a slack-jawed one, at that...). Scoff at those slack jawed spectators if you will, but their entertainment dollars are just as green as any well educated Super class fan.

Someone posted on another topic the new rules for the NHRA Unleashed series - No delay boxes or T stops...admittedly these classes are new and are contested at limited venues, but they seem to be modeled after what the fans want to watch from other series, and if they gain in popularity Could these classes eventually replace at least some of the Super classes as we know them?

INDEX CLASSES
DESIGNATION
There will be 5 index classes contested at all NHRA Unleashed events:
· 8.50 Index (.400 Pro Tree)
· 10.00 Index (.400 Pro Tree)
· 11.00 Index (.500 Pro Tree)
· 12.00 Index (.500 Pro Tree)
· 13.00 Index (.500 Pro Tree)
Racers competing in these classes refer to the 2010 NHRA Rulebook, Section 4, E.T. HANDICAP
RACING and Section 20, GENERAL REGULATIONS for rules and regulations for the appropriate
E.T. and vehicle type used with the following exceptions:
· Reserved for full-bodied cars with full fenders, hood, grille, top, windshield, and
functional doors.
· Delay boxes and/or timed throttle stops prohibited
· Transbrakes permitted
· Two-steps permitted

I ain't picking on anyone's particular class, per se, I'm trying to suggest ways to reduce costs and bring the fun back to drag racing, for both the fan and the participant.
It seems the more these cars cost, the less fun they are. Eliminating fuel and magneto may make the fuel cars safer and bring the costs down. Same holds true by eliminating electronics and other timing accessories in the Super categories, and it returns the visual appeal to these cars for the fans.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: MoparBilly] #619973
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Got word that the said car was licensing and did the unthinkable. Got out of shape, got it straightnened out and stabbed the throttle again.

Re: accident at Phoenix? [Re: mopacltd] #619974
02/26/10 12:29 PM
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Got word that the said car was licensing and did the unthinkable. Got out of shape, got it straightnened out and stabbed the throttle again.




If that is what happened, then I sure as hell wouldn't sign his license. No one else should either.

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Man...I would love to spend a day with all the bashers who have no clue and let them drive my car in a S/R race...just to see how boring it really is....Seriously...just show up at the track and I'll strap you in....





When I went to Frank Hawleys drag race school years ago, I had trouble staying on the gas and getting there SG car to the finish line. It was a eye opening/scary experience. Nothing boring about it.

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