Re: Pertronix Good or Bad
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The Pertronix can be a VERY reliable and performance oriented system if you don't cut any corners in the install, or make a few common mistakes that will plaque the system,....The Pertronix III is the full "billet dist." installation, depending on your application, the dist may interfere with the manifold, firewall clearance, etc......more info would help on your intended application,...If you want a stock look, but still want a Pertronix set up, the Ignitor II Pertonix set-up is very user friendly,very trouble free, if installed properly!....what are you looking to do?,....I've done many Pertronix conversions over the years, Automotive, Marine, even Industrial (Generators, Fork trucks, etc Don't  when you want 24/7 reliability and zero maintenance  )
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Re: Pertronix Good or Bad
[Re: RapidRobert]
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Go with the PII sytem
Would you recommend this over the "ignitor" the base model?
The Ignitor II is drasticaly better in performance over the IGN I system,...plus the ING II has greater range of applications, not just in stock dist, but aftermarket dist too, that may have obsolete parts to source
Mike
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Re: Pertronix Good or Bad
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Which coils?. Are the Flamethrower coils ours or Chinese
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Re: Pertronix Good or Bad
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02/18/10 07:01 PM
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The Ignitor II is drasticaly better in performance over the IGN I system
thank you Mike and I called autozone & they said 37.99 + tax for a rebuilt 318 point dist & a core (or $30  )
Robert, if your going to use the Pertronix II, the kits offered can be confusing as to what fits your application. seeing that your using a 318 SB point dist,...Pertronix PN# 91381A covers all 66-72 single point dist (Chrysler dist),...make sure to use the Pertronix Flamethrower coil as it's turn ratio is 100:1, the stock coil is 70:1, eliminate the ballast resistor, merely join the 2 wire ends together, either with a double spade connector to save the factory ends, or if you want the "factory" look, replace the BR's coil with a peice of #10 wire soldered inside the ceramic, red wire to + side of coil, black to - side of coil, DON"T remove the green tape from the Magnetic rotor body!, only use plastic to set the air gap, no metal gauges, even brass!,...they supply a plastic gauge, IIRC it's .030 airgap, check/reset timing after installation, as the Pertronix install will retard the intial timing by as much as 15 degrees because of it's phaseing on the breaker plate, don't run soild core plug wires, that will destroy the HallCell,....don't leave the ignition key in the "ignition" mode for longer than 20-30 seconds without the motor running as this will harm/destroy the HallCell, if you must troubleshoot other problems on the car with the ignition in the "ignition" mode for longer than 20-30 seconds, disconnect the red Pertronix HallCell wire from the coil's + terminal
I find the Pertronix works well with the Bosch Platnium double or quad tipped/electrode plugs,....carbon tracking in the cap/rotor is non-exsistant, be sure to use a quality copper terminal cap, no a cheap aluminum terminal cap,...I'd recommend the Pertronix plug wires they have them in 7 and 8 MM black for Mopar application, about $50-$100 depending on application.....follow these tips and you'll have years of troublefree running, better starting, ideling, no ignition break up in the higher RPM range, ability to run hot plugs that the stock ignition couldn't fire/ or keep from fouling out 
Mike
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Re: Pertronix Good or Bad
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Hi, just looking for a reliable ign I have a stock dist from Napa with the older orange box I need to upgrade with a good dist and electronics
doesnt need to look stock. 69 roadrunner 440
mostly stock with the eng, has a cam,906 heads,edelbrock carb. no racing ,car shows and cruise. Was thing of the pertronixs for the all in one ease of installation any advice will be helpful. Thanks Bob
Bob,...IMHO, you'd be doing your self a big favor, tossing the Chrysler Electronic set-up and Orange box by the "roadside",...purchase a new/rebuilt Chrysler model single point dist. for your application, along with the Pertronix system listed above,...follow the instructions, follow the tips above, don't cut no corners, buy quality parts,......
Mike
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Re: Pertronix Good or Bad
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Mike, Which system II or III also would you have the part numbers for a new dist, dist cap ,rotor and 8mm plug wires also the coil number. Thanks Again for all the help, Bob
Bob,....The Pertronix ignitor II kit #PNX 91381A, list $106 along with coil # PNX 45111, list $44 and B Blk Black Chrysler wire set PNX#708107 list $46,.....the rotor is included in the Ignitor II kit,....you need to purchase a rebuilt Chrysler SINGLE point dist for a stock 68-71 440 cid engine, from your local parts store (AutoZone, NAPA, CarQuest, Rockland, etc) along with a copper terminal stock dist cap,....if you can change points and set timing, you can install a Pertronix set-up, just follow the tips/install I listed above to avoid the "pitfalls" many make when installing this system,...Remove the Electronic set up you have, confirm you have the hot ignition lead from the key to power the + side of the coil, confirm all your connections before applying power, make sure to note the direction of the rotor before you pull your exsisting dist......convert the rebuilt dist, drop it in, and wire accordingly, double check install, fire up, set intial timing to about 10 degress BTDC
I'd recommend www.summitracing.com for your one stop affordable shopping on this item, shipping is very resonable/fast
PM me if you have any questions
Mike
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Go with the PII sytem