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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/12/10 07:30 PM
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Thank you Mike, I appreciate that.  BTW, the other car to commonly pick up R/T emblems were the A66 1970 Challengers. There is another thread on them. I had two of those. One was my first car in 1978. It was very confusing as it had all the R/T stuff, including emblems, and a standard dash???? I learned what it was a year later.
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/12/10 10:51 PM
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Finally, did you ever notice that R/T emblem location on 71s that do have them varies wildly (the yellow car above has the emblem under the Challenger script and forward where the blue car has it more directly under the Challenger). Makes me think they were added.
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Of the people that say the 71 stripe delete R/T cars had R/T emblems, some claim that a few early built cars came with the emblem in the 1970 location, instead of the 71 location pictured above.
Floyd, any idea what the build date is on that blue car?
I'm also curious if that R/T emblem has posts or is adhesive. Anyone know when the switch to adhesive on the R/T emblems was? Post vs. Adhesive, emblems are the same size right?
Tav
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/13/10 12:54 AM
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Floyd, any idea what the build date is on that blue car?
I tried calling Dave to get more info on the blue car, but got "not in service" phone message. 
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To ad more confusion the 340 was available in R/T & non-R/T in '71, missing emblems and a "bulge" hood requires a vin/fender tag check.
The road test car may be a standard Challenger with a 340? 
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/13/10 03:18 AM
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To ad The road test car may be a standard Challenger with a 340?
No sir,  look closer with that magnifying glass and you can clearly see louvers on the quarters. I have the other pages for the article as well. It is an R/T. I think we would all agree, all 71 R/Ts had the quarter louvers. Regular 71 Challengers with the 340 or 383 option did not have the louvers.
Good call! They do state it's the base R/T engine on the page posted. Accurate info is tough!
Chrome dual exhaust tips are "supposed" to be R/T only although exceptions do exist.
What about the "survivor" GA4 HEMI "V5X" Challenger R/T that was at the Nat's that had no louvers (2007?)? Former/current Mopar Ponderosa car?
I would think that car must have been a factory error. Or perhaps the body side mouldings had something to do with the car not getting the quarter scoops-which is a distinct possibility. It does show the R/T emblems, though.
MB
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/13/10 10:51 AM
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Chrome dual exhaust tips are "supposed" to be R/T only although exceptions do exist.
Are you sure they were exceptions? My 71 340 non-R/T is coded for exhuast tips.
And it also has quarter scoops - but I added them like an idiot in 1981, before I knew that I didn't have an R/T. There still on it it to this day. They look better than the holes will.
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/16/10 03:45 PM
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Chrome dual exhaust tips are "supposed" to be R/T only although exceptions do exist.
Are you sure they were exceptions? My 71 340 non-R/T is coded for exhuast tips.
My other 71 is a 340 non R/T and it's a tip car
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/16/10 05:00 PM
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My mistake!  N42 - "chrome exhaust tips" was not an orderable "OPTION" on JH base Challengers. They were included if the $252.50 340 engine was ordered, there was NO "package" code like '70. So .... yes, it appears ALL non-R/T 340 1971 Challengers have chrome tips. The A66 - "340 engine package" for 1970 was $258.90, for part of the year. My comment should've been: A '71 JH Challenger ordered with the 383 4bbl engine should NOT have exhaust tips, but some do exist.
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/18/10 12:06 AM
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I think that the real truth of the matter here, is that the guys assembling these things at the time didn't have much of a clue what they were doing and could care even less. If an R/T emblem wasn't within arms reach it probably didn't get one. We are not talking about bespoke quality automobiles assembled by craftsmen, but by bored blokes with one eye on the clock waiting for the end of their shift...
Plus the emblems didn't go on all the cars on the line, just the R/T stripe delete cars, so it's no wonder that some workers were confused and installed the emblems in the 1970 location.
I doubt this is the kind of thing quality control would have caught.
Tav
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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02/28/10 08:57 AM
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Here is a stripe delete hemi car still in the hands of the orig owner. Stripe delete with fender emblems.
Here is the car you are talking about in the survior tent at the 2005 Nats. This gentleman is the original owner and have seen this car on a few different occasions as we live in the same town. He has both RT emblems and side stripes. The fact of the matter is with humans work on the assembly line there is to much room for error. It is what they felt like doing on that day and here is an example of it.
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Re: 71 R/T challenger fender emblem
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06/05/10 06:21 PM
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To ad The road test car may be a standard Challenger with a 340?
No sir, look closer with that magnifying glass and you can clearly see louvers on the quarters. I have the other pages for the article as well. It is an R/T. I think we would all agree, all 71 R/Ts had the quarter louvers. Regular 71 Challengers with the 340 or 383 option did not have the louvers.
Good call! They do state it's the base R/T engine on the page posted. Accurate info is tough!
Chrome dual exhaust tips are "supposed" to be R/T only although exceptions do exist.
What about the "survivor" GA4 HEMI "V5X" Challenger R/T that was at the Nat's that had no louvers (2007?)? Former/current Mopar Ponderosa car?
I would think that car must have been a factory error. Or perhaps the body side mouldings had something to do with the car not getting the quarter scoops-which is a distinct possibility. It does show the R/T emblems, though.
MB
Could you get the body side moldings and the side stripe? Or did the body molding cancel the side stripe?
I have a GY3 car that had the body side moldings, but the fenders don't look to have had the R/T emblems on them. A'm I safe to assume the car had the side stripe?? and would it be coded on the fender tag?
Thanks
Dan.
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