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Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed #610127 02/10/10 10:30 PM 02/10/10 10:30 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,966 Tri-Cities, Washington V VITC_GTX OP master
VITC_GTX OP master V Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,966 Tri-Cities, Washington	Recieved my '71 gull wing for the Demon yesterday from Dale's Cuda shop. Was wondering how this thing goes together and where the holes are drilled. My trunk does have the cutouts underneath, just looking how to drill/install. The way I tried it had ~1" between the bracket and the bottom of the trunk lid. Doesn't seem like it should have a space there but

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: VITC_GTX] #610128 02/11/10 09:31 AM 02/11/10 09:31 AM
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Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Well, the first question has to be, are you positioning it properly?

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: Commando1] #610129 02/13/10 12:33 AM 02/13/10 12:33 AM
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VITC_GTX OP master V Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,966 Tri-Cities, Washington	I was talking about the bottom of the trunk lid. The metal braket bolts to the cutouts on the bottom off the hood but it's ~1" from the top trunk skin. That means that there will be ~1" gap between the top trunk skin and the bracket on the bottom, it that correct?

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: VITC_GTX] #610130 02/13/10 12:37 AM 02/13/10 12:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,554 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,554 Las Vegas, NV	Yes, there is space between the exterior sheetmetal and the brackets. pic stolen from the other wing thread '70 'Cuda wing 5801029-5795787-gowing.jpg (1827 downloads)

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: 6bblgt] #610131 02/13/10 07:08 AM 02/13/10 07:08 AM
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CYACOP master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,972 SW Fla.	The brackets and studs support the wing up so the sheetmetal skin does not depress and pull in. You adjust the wing bracket height as to not pull down on the sheet metal and bend it in. Not sure if that makes sense.

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: VITC_GTX] #610132 02/13/10 07:59 PM 02/13/10 07:59 PM
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screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,198 Harrisburg, Pa.	These guys are steering you in the right direction...Do you have that special double threaded adjuster nut ???? You thread that nut through the bracket and try to take up as much space between the bracket and deck lid as you can...It will act as a guide for the drillbit... 5802659-gullwingnut.jpg (430 downloads)

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: screamindriver] #610133 02/13/10 11:15 PM 02/13/10 11:15 PM
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VITC_GTX OP master V Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,966 Tri-Cities, Washington	Thanks all. I'll have to look and see if I have the double threaded nut. I hope so, I bought the wing "kit". I'll check it out tomorrow and get back with you.

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: VITC_GTX] #610134 02/14/10 12:46 AM 02/14/10 12:46 AM
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Steve340 pro stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,547 Puyallup, Wa.	Like this: 5803301-spoiler.jpg (927 downloads)

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: Steve340] #610135 02/21/10 01:01 AM 02/21/10 01:01 AM
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VITC_GTX OP master V Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,966 Tri-Cities, Washington	Wow, the sheet shows a 21/32" hole. That's pretty big for a 1/4" stud. Is this correct??

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: VITC_GTX] #610136 02/21/10 01:30 AM 02/21/10 01:30 AM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,554 Las Vegas, NV	The factory engineering drawing posted above appears to have 4 holes at .281" (9/32") diameter.

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: 6bblgt] #610137 02/21/10 01:40 AM 02/21/10 01:40 AM
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6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,554 Las Vegas, NV	The sheet-metal nut item "D" in the engineering drawing is 3/4" (.750") diameter. (21/32" (.656") diameter doesn't sound/look correct) 5820228-spoiler-nut.JPG (285 downloads)

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: VITC_GTX] #610138 02/21/10 10:05 AM 02/21/10 10:05 AM
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DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,167 Mass	I posted the factory print(on another post), the one Steve has, I don't know were that came from,...but the required holes are .281 or 9/32",....I wouldn't exceed 5/16" (.312) diameter Mike 5820539-spoiler.JPG (869 downloads)

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: DAYCLONA] #610139 02/21/10 10:14 AM 02/21/10 10:14 AM
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DAYCLONA I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 18,167 Mass	This is the required bracket for 70 Dodge/Plymouth models/exc Charger 5820558-70gowply.JPG (262 downloads)

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: DAYCLONA] #610140 02/21/10 01:50 PM 02/21/10 01:50 PM
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Steve340 pro stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,547 Puyallup, Wa.	Quote: I posted the factory print(on another post), the one Steve has, I don't know were that came from,...but the required holes are .281 or 9/32",....I wouldn't exceed 5/16" (.312) diameter Mike Wow. I never noticed that before on the hole size. That sheet came with some NOS brackets and hardware for the A-body. It was folded up in the box.

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: 6bblgt] #610141 02/21/10 02:06 PM 02/21/10 02:06 PM
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VITC_GTX OP master V Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,966 Tri-Cities, Washington	Quote: The factory engineering drawing posted above appears to have 4 holes at .281" (9/32") diameter. Thanks. I couldn't read the numbers on the sheet you posted, it was too small and I couldn't figure out how to enlarge.

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: DAYCLONA] #610142 02/21/10 02:09 PM 02/21/10 02:09 PM
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VITC_GTX OP master V Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,966 Tri-Cities, Washington	Quote: I posted the factory print(on another post), the one Steve has, I don't know were that came from,...but the required holes are .281 or 9/32",....I wouldn't exceed 5/16" (.312) diameter Mike Well, unfortunately I went 7/16" on the holes. Once the wing is in place the holes are covered and the provided nuts are centered well enough to cover the holes from underneath. I don't see any reason to weld them up or get another trunk lid. This is just going to be a fun car anyway. Lesson learned I guess.

Re: Drilling/installing '71 Gull Wing Help Needed [Re: VITC_GTX] #610143 02/21/10 08:38 PM 02/21/10 08:38 PM
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VITC_GTX OP master V Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,966 Tri-Cities, Washington	They look pretty big, but are hidden when the wing is installed.

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