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I don't understand..................................... #601649
02/02/10 03:00 PM
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Deerfield, Ohio
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I've been posting here for sometime now and it seems as of late that I post something and either I get no replies or one or two. I've asked questions about stroked small blocks builds, I think I had maybe 10, asked about what needed to be done to an A-833 to standup to 600-700 Hp. I think I got 3 or 4.. I don't understand am I asking wrong, or is it that no-body runs this stuff.. I doubt the latter. I come here looking for help as many others do. I dont know everything and I appreciate the answers that members give, just seems to be lacking lately. Maybe its me

But I'd like to hear some small block stroker builds. 340 or 318.. And what can I do to a A-833 to make it live at bout 600hp drag/street car. Thanks John

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601650
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Puttin' on the foil in Charles...
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Puttin' on the foil in Charles...
I think it's a conspiracy against people from Deerfield.

Personally, I like Deerfield...The Circle Restaurant, the dirt track, the cemetary that's the final resting place of the mother of a US President.


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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: not_a_charger] #601651
02/02/10 03:08 PM
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Yep all thats true but then again it still doesn't answer any questions that I have. Seem it's went down hill, a lot of the helpful people that use to answer posts when I first signed up here don't post anymore. Just wondered... But thanks for the replies. Oh yeah you forgot bout the BFI DUMP...

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601652
02/02/10 03:15 PM
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Probably going to be less posters this time of the year. Race season isn't too far away.


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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601653
02/02/10 03:16 PM
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Quote:

I've been posting here for sometime now and it seems as of late that I post something and either I get no replies or one or two. I've asked questions about stroked small blocks builds, I think I had maybe 10, asked about what needed to be done to an A-833 to standup to 600-700 Hp. I think I got 3 or 4.. I don't understand am I asking wrong, or is it that no-body runs this stuff.. I doubt the latter. I come here looking for help as many others do. I dont know everything and I appreciate the answers that members give, just seems to be lacking lately. Maybe its me

But I'd like to hear some small block stroker builds. 340 or 318.. And what can I do to a A-833 to make it live at bout 600hp drag/street car. Thanks John


Not every one on here has the same parts as you or me Some have no parts or experiences other than reading articles written by other people(some scribes with little or no expereinces either ) Some don't care and respond anyways Knowing what advise to use and what not to use is the hard part As far as how to make the 833 hold up on the street and strip my way is to use a small enough tire or slipper clutch to allow some slippage on the line and on the one two gear changes Sometimes you have to be the innovater and strike out on your own with out guidance. A old freind of mine use to say that advice is worth what you pay for it Do you want my mailing address to send the check to Don't give up on this crowd, there are some really good people on here that will offer sound advice, not always on every post tho, unlike me


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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601654
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Read the acceptable side clearance post on page 2 and you will see why

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: emarine01] #601655
02/02/10 03:31 PM
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That's my point.. Seem to me there's a lot of fighting. I ask a question to have a answer. I post if I know or have experiance in that area. If I'm wrong or someone has a different idea than me it doesn't mean the I'm going to fight over it. Its up to the end user to figure out what to use and what to file. And Cab give me a address and I'll get that check on its way...

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: emarine01] #601656
02/02/10 03:33 PM
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My 4 speed is holding up just fine behind my r5 which is close to 900hp, but only around 570 ft lbs. But I am running a short tire as Cab mentioned 0nly 27" tall. Blazes the tires off the rims on the street in every gear. As for the track maybe I'll stick with radials instead of an all out slick. Working on my pinion angle right now so I can get to the track this weekend. Hopefully I can make a full pass



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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: DemonDust] #601657
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Some of the longest threads on here dont seem to be tech or race related.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: deaks] #601658
02/02/10 03:51 PM
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I agree and its a shame..

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601659
02/02/10 03:52 PM
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Puttin' on the foil in Charles...
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I agree and its a shame..




You should hear the amount of that goes on when any of those threads in the race forum get locked, moved, or deleted.


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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: emarine01] #601660
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Quote:

Read the acceptable side clearance post on page 2 and you will see why


Exactly! Lots of people can have different points of view ( that's a good thing ), but disagreeing with the "establishment" - first 4 or so posts - right or wrong - can be hard to take if your thinned skinned. I was part of that thread and retaliated a bit when one of my posts was referred to as BS. I probably should have just let it slide, but all in all, there was good info sharing on that post. As long as I have been playing on Moparts, it's how it is. I have learned a lot from the people on this web sight - some of which I have already put to good use. Moparts isn't that much different than many web sights of this nature. Some good, some bad, some ugly. My skin isn't very thin anymore, and I learn stuff all the time here, so I deal with it - - but don't call me Shirley!!


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Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: not_a_charger] #601661
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Two reasons I see....too many friends bs-ing and the mods, only doing as they are told.

But not letting people speak openly on a part or a topic that does not fit into the mainstream world gets the axe.

Its a double edge sword, when I got back into the car world only one person on the site had the balls to tell me I was screwing up 8 different ways and he was right. So it cost me a crankshaft....instead of the moparts PC response, if one would of said "hey you idiot your going to eat a crank" I would of took two steps back.

Now theres sites like the bullet or mine for instance where people can speak there mind and sort out the facts.

This is why moparts is refered to by many as the mopar church site.

Countless business owners have told me directly they stay away from here because its one sided and so much duplicity is present.

Re: I don't understand................................. [Re: quick77rt ] #601662
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I think these guys are just getting old and grumpy...

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: deaks] #601663
02/02/10 04:08 PM
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R-3 block with 9 " deck.
3.79 arm and 6" rods with a 4.25 bore.
13:1 , with an eye on running E-85
Solid roller with grind yet to be determined , since the heads ( W-9's ) are still being sorted and I need numbers before I settle on the final lift and duration etc.
Same for the converter....until I get some numbers , I cannot order that.
I am going with a low 1st. gear 727 and 3.91's out back.
Detroit locker in an 8 3/4.....braced.
All of this in a roughly 3,000 lb 1965 Dart.
This is a " street car " in a manner of speaking.
I will have it on the avenue , but it will see a lot of track time.
I should back half it , but I am moving the leafs in ( SS leafs ) since I am breaking the bank on every thing else.
10 point cage.
AlterKtion up front.
Any help ?
I thought so.
That would be why I haven't replied.
Guess what ?
I know less about MoPar's than you probably......I have done the Chevy thing and big Ford thing.
But the members here have been gracious and forthcoming with their experience in my case.....a HUGE help to me.
But then , I live in St. Paul.
I wish you a lot of luck on your build.....I'd love to row the car , but the thought of leaving a trail of parts behind me twice a year scares the daylights out of me.
If I had to , it would be a stouter piece than and 833 just for piece of mind.
And that is well outside my budget.
I wish I could help......in spite of my relative newbishness , every once in a while a blind hog finds an acorn.
What I do know , I know from reading , using the search function and begging people who have beaten this path before me for clues.
And a lot of it I will just figure out the hard way.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: tubtar] #601664
02/02/10 04:15 PM
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Quote:

R-3 block with 9 " deck.
3.79 arm and 6" rods with a 4.25 bore.
13:1 , with an eye on running E-85
Solid roller with grind yet to be determined , since the heads ( W-9's ) are still being sorted and I need numbers before I settle on the final lift and duration etc.
Same for the converter....until I get some numbers , I cannot order that.
I am going with a low 1st. gear 727 and 3.91's out back.
Detroit locker in an 8 3/4.....braced.
All of this in a roughly 3,000 lb 1965 Dart.
This is a " street car " in a manner of speaking.
I will have it on the avenue , but it will see a lot of track time.
I should back half it , but I am moving the leafs in ( SS leafs ) since I am breaking the bank on every thing else.
10 point cage.
AlterKtion up front.
Any help ?
I thought so.
That would be why I haven't replied.
Guess what ?
I know less about MoPar's than you probably......I have done the Chevy thing and big Ford thing.
But the members here have been gracious and forthcoming with their experience in my case.....a HUGE help to me.
But then , I live in St. Paul.
I wish you a lot of luck on your build.....I'd love to row the car , but the thought of leaving a trail of parts behind me twice a year scares the daylights out of me.
If I had to , it would be a stouter piece than and 833 just for piece of mind.
And that is well outside my budget.
I wish I could help......in spite of my relative newbishness , every once in a while a blind hog finds an acorn.
What I do know , I know from reading , using the search function and begging people who have beaten this path before me for clues.
And a lot of it I will just figure out the hard way.




If you went big block I could help ya.. I've never run a small block. Just looking to have some fun and not be the normal big block stuff. You build looks well thought out, and sure to be a runner. On a side note the duster was ss car running 9.93, went cal-tracs and went 9.80s. so I can help ya there.. Thanks

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601665
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It's a conspiracy against you Ohio boys instigated by the Misfits at BGR.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: 70dusterjohn] #601666
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I believe it.
I bought the SS springs early in the deal , but they are nearly new and don't work with Cal Trac s according to what i have read.
If I can't sort these out , I will probably go to a single leaf / Cal Trac set up.
So........instead of helping , you are just rubbing salt in the wound.
Thanks.

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: tubtar] #601667
02/02/10 04:22 PM
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Deerfield, Ohio
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I believe it.
I bought the SS springs early in the deal , but they are nearly new and don't work with Cal Trac s according to what i have read.
If I can't sort these out , I will probably go to a single leaf / Cal Trac set up.
So........instead of helping , you are just rubbing salt in the wound.
Thanks.




Sorry... I was in good faith trying.. just sell them SS..

Re: I don't understand..................................... [Re: B G Racing] #601668
02/02/10 04:23 PM
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It's a conspiracy against you Ohio boys instigated by the Misfits at BGR.




Why do I belive that.....

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