Pro Shifting and Faceplating
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I know this stuff is out there on this website but I couldn't get any search results. I was wondering what exactly is "pro shifting" and "faceplating"? I put quotes because I know they are two different things. Is pro shifting another term for slick shifting where every other tooth on the gears are cut off so it can be slammed into gear without the clutch? And faceplating, is that just a hardening process? And where to send/how much does it cost/what kind of abuse can the resulting product have?
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'71 Sassy Grass Demon 340/904. Pump gas, 1.61 60ft, 7.439 1/8 @ 95mph, 11.824 1/4 @ 111mph
"Not too bad for a pump gas 340, full of used parts and hillbilly ported stock heads." - V.B.
'03 2500 5.9L HO 6-spd on 35's. 395hp/755ft-lb at tires.
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Re: Pro Shifting and Faceplating
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Pro shifting involves replacing the engagment teeth with larger, stronger teeth that are spaced farther apart called "lugs". The brass, the dogs, and the springs are removed from the slider and 2 out of every 3 splines is removed from it.
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Re: Pro Shifting and Faceplating
[Re: Hemi_Joel]
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So what benefit is there from pro shifting? Was I correct in the clutchless shifting from 1-2? And faceplating 3-4 what does that do?
knyech1-
'71 Sassy Grass Demon 340/904. Pump gas, 1.61 60ft, 7.439 1/8 @ 95mph, 11.824 1/4 @ 111mph
"Not too bad for a pump gas 340, full of used parts and hillbilly ported stock heads." - V.B.
'03 2500 5.9L HO 6-spd on 35's. 395hp/755ft-lb at tires.
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Re: Pro Shifting and Faceplating
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Here is the Liberty Face-plate in my Richmond box. Gus
64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60
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Re: Pro Shifting and Faceplating
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I would Pro-shift second then Faceplate third and fourth.Second gear Pro-Rings seem to outlast 3-4 a few seasons longer. Gus
64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60
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Re: Pro Shifting and Faceplating
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I would Pro-shift second then Faceplate third and fourth.Second gear Pro-Rings seem to outlast 3-4 a few seasons longer. Gus
Thanks
Any idea what having that done to my 18 spline 4 speed would cost?
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Re: Pro Shifting and Faceplating
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I think its about $75.00 per gear to add a ring and they will need your side cover to modify the shift selector as well.Last time I talked Paul at Liberty it seemed like a pretty easy mod to the side cover and I'm pretty sure the 3-4 slider is $50.00.They can Pro-shift your existing 1-2 slider or you can get a new one from them,not sure on the price of that I never had to buy one from them. If you need the work done send me a PM.I can set it up for you Gus
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Re: Pro Shifting and Faceplating
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I think its about $75.00 per gear to add a ring and they will need your side cover to modify the shift selector as well.Last time I talked Paul at Liberty it seemed like a pretty easy mod to the side cover and I'm pretty sure the 3-4 slider is $50.00.They can Pro-shift your existing 1-2 slider or you can get a new one from them,not sure on the price of that I never had to buy one from them. If you need the work done send me a PM.I can set it up for you Gus
Thanks gus. I'm over in Massillon.
The tranny is currently in a running/driving car but I plan to remove the engine/tranny this spring so I'm strongly thinking of getting this done.
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Re: Pro Shifting and Faceplating
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When I talked them the other day, they said they were working on having a faceplated 2nd in a few months. So if you wait til then you will be able to get 2nd faceplated as well, instead of getting it proshifted.
They quoted me around $400 for everything.
I heard that 2 years ago then last year! Just pro shift second and faceplate 3-4. I do not use second on the street. The faceplating is awesome!
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