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426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... #594036
01/25/10 08:17 PM
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Get a use set off of 67', That needs work?, Or buy a new $1500 set? And a use set, What are rough set selling for? Any HELP??????

Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: Jeff's HEMI Bird] #594037
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I would get a new set of roller rockers.What are you building??


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Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: hemi-itis] #594038
01/26/10 01:13 AM
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used rockers are typically in the $750 to $1500 depending on condition.
Wide pad rockers are desireable if you are going with big cams and springs.
There are a lot of parts that make up the rocker assy, simply buying new arms is only a start of the spending spree

Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: sthemi] #594039
01/27/10 09:19 PM
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A 472 with a Rat-Rooster intake {Not sure on carbs yet?},ITT headers, 4 speed, And 4:10 gear, In a 69' Bird. I know if I get used it will need springs, shafts, And so on. I don't know to go used, Or go new? And will the older rockers hold up to a all new 472, With 66' race only heads {Cast Iron}? And if new what to use with out an over kill? These things are to expensive to mess up on..........

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Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: Jeff's HEMI Bird] #594040
01/27/10 10:18 PM
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I think the best, most foolproof way is to find a complete, used, original Chrysler setup. Thats what I run on my current 472 and all the other Hemi's I've run in the last 30 years. Just make sure the rocker pads are in good shape.
There are better areas to spend more money on than high dollar aftermarket Hemi rockers.

Sheldon

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That sounds good to me, I can get a 67' set. I think they got some rust on them, Bad storage. I guess they can be check out, I haven't seen them yet. They been off the engine since 1970..........

Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: Jeff's HEMI Bird] #594042
01/28/10 11:36 AM
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If you pick up the used set they can be reconditioned.
Rocker Arm Specialties in anderson is one very good source.

Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: Jeff's HEMI Bird] #594043
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If they've been in storage since 1970 chances are they may be in pretty good shape. I especially check the pads for any strange wear patterns. The going rate on Epay for complete sets with shafts and stands seems to be just above $1k, so if they are priced around there or a bit lower that should be fair if they are in nice condition.
Pro stock racers ran .750 lift roller cams with these rockers with no issues.

Sheldon

Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #594044
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Quote:

I think the best, most foolproof way is to find a complete, used, original Chrysler setup. Thats what I run on my current 472 and all the other Hemi's I've run in the last 30 years. Just make sure the rocker pads are in good shape.
There are better areas to spend more money on than high dollar aftermarket Hemi rockers.

Sheldon




There is no better place than on a hemi to invest in good roller rockers to correct the poor geometry and varying ratios the factory parts were known for. If you have a used set lying around, by all means throw them on and run them. If you have to buy rockers, you can buy a used set of stockers and have them rebuilt and your total investment will be the same as a good set of stage V rockers and stands. Buy a good set once and forget trying to revive the 40 year old rockers that weren't very good to begin with. Your valve guides will thank you.

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How much HP is that extra $1500 going to buy you?

Sheldon

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Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #594047
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Use the stock rockers.

Going with aftermarket or rollers starts the oiling issues you don't need to be involved with....

Dave

Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: HemiDave] #594048
01/29/10 03:31 PM
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I'm using the stock rockers on mine. Stock cast iron heads, an old tunnel ram with a used set of small 600 cfm Holleys, an even older(?) Sig Erson mid .500 lift cam, and a 4.150 crank with about a 10.5 CR. Nothing exotic at all. I tuned it by "seat of the pants" street driving and it put out 498 HP at the rear wheels on pump 93. I can't wait to get the 850 DP's that I have sitting on the shelf bolted on top of that tunnel ram...

I did find that when I first mocked up the rocker assemblies on the heads, some of the rocker pads did not sit squarely on the valve tips. By taking the assemblies apart and re-arranging the rocker arms around, I was able to set them to where they were all contacting the valve tips squarely.


Stan

Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... #594049
01/29/10 09:15 PM
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Why bother asking that question? By building a HEMI, your dollar per horsepower ratio is already sky high compared to other Mopar engine designs. "

Not so. If you want 700HP you can do it with a stock Hemi block, heads, rocker gear, etc. To do it with a Wedge you need an aftermarket block, heads, valvegear etc. The big Dollar Hemi myth is old. The aftermarket cranks, heads, blocks, rods and pistons are pretty much all the same $$$ Hemi or Wedge.

Sheldon

Re: 426 HEMI Rocker Arms........... [Re: RUNCHARGER] #594050
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Quote:

How much HP is that extra $1500 going to buy you?

Sheldon



As bad as those stock rockers are, it's an easy 20hp-30hp on a solid build. You could spend the extra $1500 on good rockers and enjoy the extra power that comes with it, or you can spend it on rebuilding the heads when those junkers kill the guides. It's a pay now or pay later deal. Either way, you'll spend the money. If you buy good rockers though, you'll only spend it once. I'll use whatever rockers my customer will pay for, but I make sure my opinion is heard.

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I bought a set of new landy's from Mancini for $2100

you see new ones off crate motors for 600-700 on the bag.







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