Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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The car had a 3.54:1 Dana 60 rear and 8.25 X 14 Dunlop Gold Seal tires at that time. This means the RPM was about 6800 at 148 mph. There may have been a little more speed left because, on another occassion, I had been to 115 mph in third gear which read 7000 on the Sun Tach. I got off the gas at the 148 mph because I was less than a mile away from the toll booth on the Garden State Parkway in Westwood, NJ. This event took place about 11 pm while setting a local record for a specific route from Nanuet, NY, to Ridgewood, NJ. With an elapsed time of 10 minutes and 35 seconds, I broke my previous record of 12 minutes flat set in the summer of 1965 in my red 1964 Fury four door sedan with a 426 wedge with a four speed. I sold this car when I replaced it with the four door Hemi. I was much younger when I did these things. When Chrysler stopped building REAL cars during the 1980's, I switched to Chevy's, but would enjoy having a '66 or '67 Hemi today. Relative to tires, during my second ownership of the car, 1972 to 1980, I ran 15 X 8 Mopar police rims with H60-15 Goodyear Polyglas tires and dog dish hub caps, but never exceeded 120 mph.
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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The VIN of this and every other 66&67 4door Hemi car is in the IBM Cards at Chrysler. Somehow if someone can get an opprotunity to look at all the IBM cards they are all in there. A search between March 22nd, and April 7th and the VIN to this 66 will appear. Could take a few days off of each end of that date range for paperwork travel and the car being delivered to dealer.
Deal is now that you tell them the VIN and prove ownership and they send the info to you. So to work it the other way would have to be somehow arranged.
I've often thought about this- but even if the VIN is determined, there's no means to prove ownership or the fact of it getting stolen: the police report is long gone (inquired to the local police 4 years ago).
Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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The VIN of this and every other 66&67 4door Hemi car is in the IBM Cards at Chrysler. Somehow if someone can get an opprotunity to look at all the IBM cards they are all in there. A search between March 22nd, and April 7th and the VIN to this 66 will appear. Could take a few days off of each end of that date range for paperwork travel and the car being delivered to dealer.
Deal is now that you tell them the VIN and prove ownership and they send the info to you. So to work it the other way would have to be somehow arranged.
I've often thought about this- but even if the VIN is determined, there's no means to prove ownership or the fact of it getting stolen: the police report is long gone (inquired to the local police 4 years ago).
I take it the title is long gone? Where did the rest of the documentation go after the car was stolen?
Thanks to all that have shared information in this thread.
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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I take it the title is long gone? Where did the rest of the documentation go after the car was stolen?
Thanks to all that have shared information in this thread.
I was 10 when the car was stolen- not sure where the title went. I recall the keys to the car remained around the household for at least 15 years after, and old registrations/insurance cards as well. Then one day the home office got an overdue cleaning and all was disposed of.....
Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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But will they seach for one without proof of ownership, or proof it was stolen long ago?
Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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Around here, if an abandoned car, (which is what happenned to this Plymouth) is left on a street, it will be ticketed. Then after five days, towed to local towing/storage yard. If tickets and storage go unpaid, yard owner turns in paperwork to apply for a salvage certificate through DMV. Then this car can be legally parted out then junked. Once a salvage certificate has been issued, it can NEVER be legally titled/registered again. I would say that the Plymouth went to the crusher, as nobody back then noticed the odd VIN on an old FOUR DOOR car! We got the story here straight from the last owner, car stolen and insurance claim paid, face it-she's went to junkyard/scrapyard once insurer paid for it. Same way it's done today. Odds of this car existing is impossible. Low probability of ever even knowing the VIN. A great story, but beating a dead horse...
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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In reference to #2)on EWJ post above #5742383 - I believe EWJ's father's friend's Hemi was a 1966 yellow 4 speed convertible w/ black top & interior. Don't know if it was a Belv. or Satellite. Remember seeing the car in Bergen county NJ. Don't know who the original owner was, but car was sold to Ricky Smith - believe he lived in River Edge. Anyone know the whereabouts of that car?
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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In reference to #2)on EWJ post above #5742383 - I believe EWJ's father's friend's Hemi was a 1966 yellow 4 speed convertible w/ black top & interior. Don't know if it was a Belv. or Satellite. Remember seeing the car in Bergen county NJ. Don't know who the original owner was, but car was sold to Ricky Smith - believe he lived in River Edge. Anyone know the whereabouts of that car?
Greg
Not to go too far off the 4 door Hemi topic- but here is the info on the Conv you mention according to RH21H: "The Tom Godfrey car was delivered (Franklin Motors, Wyckoff) in late May, 1966. It was a Belvedere II convertible with the same equipment as my car (forest green metallic with citron gold interior, drum brakes, light package, foam seat padding, wheel covers, drum brakes, manual steering, 4 speed, am radio with rear speaker) except for the vinyl seats and did not have the wood grained steering wheel. I believe Godfrey still lives on Morris Avenue in Oradell, but there is no phone listing for him."
I've never heard of anything more on this car, but it was one of a handful (4??) 4 speed Belv II Hemi convs. Thanks for advising of the subsequent owner.
Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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With the vin in hand (maybe insurance company help it could be found) a vin search could be done. I've wondered why it's so difficult to find info on retired vin's. Wreckers paperwork with state dmv offices should be someplace? Have you checked with the selling dealership (if they are around yet)?
Franklin Motors became Wyckoff Motors and has since closed: place is cleaned out....
Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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I was reading an older thread on another forum and came across this interesting info! Quote:
I sold for two dealerships in Milwaukee in 1964-1967. They Dodge City, which was on the corner of 35th and Wi Ave., and North Ave Chrysler Ply, at 29th and North Ave. Dodge City is long gone, North Ave Chrysler Ply is now known as Emil Ewald Chrysler Ply. Some years ago i tried to see if they had any records of prior year sales as in HEMI car, and was told all gone decades ago! And with loads of foresight all of my sales records which i kept, for each and every car i sold i had given them to a friend of mine in the business when i quit selling! Later i found out he had passed away and the stuff was all trashed! As in Aw Sh*t! I can tell you that we sold every Dodge & Plymouth screw up car that they produced. Cars that were ordered w/HEMI's, and delivered w/383, and visa/versa. As in HEMI 4 Doors both Dodge & Plymouth B bodies, including a Belvedere 1 Wagon which Galen says never happened. But thats what he gets paid for! We sold lots of 2dr post cars in 66 of both Dodge and Ply. When i said all cars produced i meant delivered to the Milwaukee zone!!
I regard to your question about four door HEMI cars i can remember 2 Dodges we had, one being a 440 Coronet 4 dr Auto, Powder Blue color, The other a red stripo 4 dr Red Auto. I Drove the 440 as a Demo for about 3 weeks and sold it. You know this taking it's toll of my memory as i'm into the geezer age (70).
http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=1562
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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars.
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I was reading an older thread on another forum and came across this interesting info!
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I sold for two dealerships in Milwaukee in 1964-1967. They Dodge City, which was on the corner of 35th and Wi Ave., and North Ave Chrysler Ply, at 29th and North Ave. Dodge City is long gone, North Ave Chrysler Ply is now known as Emil Ewald Chrysler Ply. Some years ago i tried to see if they had any records of prior year sales as in HEMI car, and was told all gone decades ago! And with loads of foresight all of my sales records which i kept, for each and every car i sold i had given them to a friend of mine in the business when i quit selling! Later i found out he had passed away and the stuff was all trashed! As in Aw Sh*t! I can tell you that we sold every Dodge & Plymouth screw up car that they produced. Cars that were ordered w/HEMI's, and delivered w/383, and visa/versa. As in HEMI 4 Doors both Dodge & Plymouth B bodies, including a Belvedere 1 Wagon which Galen says never happened. But thats what he gets paid for! We sold lots of 2dr post cars in 66 of both Dodge and Ply. When i said all cars produced i meant delivered to the Milwaukee zone!!
I regard to your question about four door HEMI cars i can remember 2 Dodges we had, one being a 440 Coronet 4 dr Auto, Powder Blue color, The other a red stripo 4 dr Red Auto. I Drove the 440 as a Demo for about 3 weeks and sold it. You know this taking it's toll of my memory as i'm into the geezer age (70).
http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?t=1562
Thanks for this info! Very cool!
Ed EastCoast Land Yacht Assoc. 1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed 1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96 1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7 1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96 1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96 1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW 1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96 2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed "The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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