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Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582945
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2 pic of the engine bay, a few days after delivery in 1966:


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
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2nd one:


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582947
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NICE!

Ok NOW we are getting somewhere. Without absalute proof (VIN# etc.) it's still unconfirmed, but that car sure does look authentic......However....No shots showing it's a 4 door, that could be the front of a 2 door hard top based on what you can/can't see, just being advocate. Wait, nevermind, the first pic shows the pass side enough to see the 4 door piller and rear door glass. Nuff said, that's a 4 door!

I really hope more shows up about this car, it would sure be neat to see it confirmed, and even better, FOUND!


Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #582948
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Ed
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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582949
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Yes, I was editing when you posted, I see it. Strange, I don't see a 426 Hemi decal on the air cleaner, or 426 Hemi emblems (or HP2) on the lower fenders? Can you explain that? I've never seen a real Hemi car that didn't have the emblems it should have come with.

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Here is a shot of the engine bay, in 1976 after the A/C install:

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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582951
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Way cool!

Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582952
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Dang: That Belv is the most interesting 4 door Hemi by far! 4 Speed and wood wheel, what a sleeper. Hope you can somehow find the VIN.

Sheldon

Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #582953
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Yes, I was editing when you posted, I see it. Strange, I don't see a 426 Hemi decal on the air cleaner, or 426 Hemi emblems (or HP2) on the lower fenders? Can you explain that? I've never seen a real Hemi car that didn't have the emblems it should have come with.




Car was ordered in 3/66- after HP2 designation was used: correct? As stated in an earlier post: the lower fender emblems were removed by my father shortly after delivery to seal the sleeper status of the car. As for the air cleaner: I cannot advise. All I know is that the 2 engine pics were taken ( developed on slides) by a friend of my father at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds within 1 week of him getting the car- that I am certain of.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582954
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One more pic (the short person in this one is me):


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: EWJ] #582955
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Car was ordered in 3/66- after HP2 designation was used: correct? As stated in an earlier post: the lower fender emblems were removed by my father shortly after delivery to seal the sleeper status of the car. As for the air cleaner: I cannot advise. All I know is that the 2 engine pics were taken ( developed on slides) by a friend of my father at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds within 1 week of him getting the car- that I am certain of.






Yes, you are correct about the HP2 emblems, they would have been the 426 Hemi variety.

Re: 66-67 Dodge & Plymouth, 4-door Hemi cars. [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #582956
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Car is a week or two old and the washer bottle has an already an aged yellow look to it. I've always argued that they were never a stark white as many people seem to believe, they were always at least a little yellow even when new.

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for some reason, the I remember seeing something in the Swamp Rat's Den about the white car saying something about it being a law enforcement car...FBI or something....


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Pretty interesting stuff...

I bet there might be someone who knew of the whererabouts of this car-but he is presently deceased. Willie Howell used to run with a lot of the guys from Paterson back in the day. He probably knew something of this car. Hey Ed, did you try to contact Jerry Stein abiut this?? I am a personal friend of Jerry and I can give him a call for you if you wish. You also should try to dig up some of the old Clifton "Gasoline Alley" guys. I do know a bunch of them still. I can reach out and see what comes of it.

Frankly, I am surprised that I never heard of this car before-especially being right in my backyard. I usually know of a lot of the obscure stuff around here.

Great story.

MB

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Hey...this is NEAT. LOVE the pics and story. It would be awesome if this car was still around. Just curious ED, did your father receive an insurance settlement for the theft? With all the stories about stolen cars being found lately, it would be cool if this one turned up.

Joe



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Pretty interesting stuff...

I bet there might be someone who knew of the whererabouts of this car-but he is presently deceased. Willie Howell used to run with a lot of the guys from Paterson back in the day. He probably knew something of this car. Hey Ed, did you try to contact Jerry Stein abiut this?? I am a personal friend of Jerry and I can give him a call for you if you wish. You also should try to dig up some of the old Clifton "Gasoline Alley" guys. I do know a bunch of them still. I can reach out and see what comes of it.

Frankly, I am surprised that I never heard of this car before-especially being right in my backyard. I usually know of a lot of the obscure stuff around here.

Great story.

MB




Hey Mike,

I've met Jerry a few times, via a mutual friend (TS) but do not know him personally. Run it by him-and anyone else for that matter- worth a shot. It would be greatly appreciated. This car spent it's whole life in Bergen County NJ- always within a 20 mile radius of where it was delivered new (Wyckoff/River Edge/Paramus/Haworth/Paterson). When it was not traveling to/from Maryland (where my father was stationed), it was out on the streets in Bergen and Rockland Co (Nanuet/Spring Valley). Some of the racing tales I've been told of was seeing who could get from the Nanuet Hotel down to the Fireplace in Paramus, first: many high speed runs down the GSP happened in that car....

Funny you mention 'Gasoline Alley': I omitted part of my father's recanting of the car. The motor in this car was redone in 67- storyline below:

"At 52,000 miles, in mid June 1967, a piston ring broke and scored a cylinder wall, # 3, 4, 5, or 6, I don't remember which. I had purchased .040 over pistons before disassembly only to discover the score was .027" deep and the cylinder needed to be sleeved. The sleeve and all other cylinders were bored .040 over and bronze guides were installed in the heads along with new exhaust valves. This work was done by Dick Simonek on "gasoline Alley" in Paterson. The car was back in service on 7/14/67. "

I am 99% sure only the motor was taken there: not the car also. Just a small tid-bit. If you come up with anything, drop me a line: again- thanks.

Ed


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Hey...this is NEAT. LOVE the pics and story. It would be awesome if this car was still around. Just curious ED, did your father receive an insurance settlement for the theft? With all the stories about stolen cars being found lately, it would be cool if this one turned up.

Joe




Yes- He did get a settlement: had to fight the insurance co to get some real $$ (in 1980 value) for the loss. They did not initially acknowledge/understand the 'H' in the VIN (Hemi). Still, it was .01 on the dollar to its value today.


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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here is the pic lightened up a tad and you can see the front bench seat and the back door behind the drivers door. This is a neat car, please find more info about it.....



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Thanks Nick!!!


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1967 Newport Conv: 440/4 speed
1969 GTX: 440/4 speed, TX9/TX9, A34, N96
1970 Super Bee: 383/4 speed, B5/B7
1970 Coronet RT: 440/4 speed, A34, N96
1970 Coronet RT: 440/auto, A36, N96
1970 Road Runner convertible: 383/4 speed TX9/D6XW
1970 GTX: 440+6/727, A32, N96
2001 Dodge 2500 HO CTD, 6 speed, 4x4 quad cab long bed
"The early bird may get the worm, but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese".
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Also, for the record. I remember that the 66 Hemi Charger off Cora's (the Mauve survivor) was also was lacking the air cleaner decal. She had the dealer swap the 426 fender emblems for 383 because she was tired of street racers egging her on, it's possible the dealer also removed the air cleaner decal but she claims it was never there.

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