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My w2 Heads #582542
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I think I make 550 HP with these W2. Do you guys think it's posible to do 675 HP within a small budget or should I go Big block?

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Re: My w2 Heads [Re: cbarracuda] #582548
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How big is your motor? What do those heads flow? cam specs? compression? What intake,carb & fuel?

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408 11, 5 to 1 compression, Mopar 590, lift 312 duration solid, Holley W2 tunnel run and 2 holley 750 carb

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IMo a true 675 HP from Home Ported W2's will be pretty hard to achieve..It will be a all out engine. 14:1+ compression, large Solid roller cam, and Dominator carb etc..
A friend just finished up a 420ish cube small block with near 14:1 compression, home ported W2's which was nicely done
This engine, has a Lunati solid flat tappet cam (shelf grind) and Beehive valve springs, Indy Intake and a 850HP Holley carb..It made a honest 620+hp..car is a 68 Dart 3000+ lbs, leaf spring, small tire car runs low 6.30's High 6.20's in the 8th mile at 108+MPH.

So yes 675 might be doable with more compression,solid roller cam, a CNC port job, or ported by that RyanJ (someone who knows those heads)..

The engine made peak power at 6700 rpm's BTW.


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IMO a true 675 HP




I say this cause I have seen him out run stroker Big blocks at the same weight that made 750+hp on other people's dyno the dyno...LOL..



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Re: My w2 Heads [Re: cbarracuda] #582552
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I think I make 550 HP with these W2. Do you guys think it's posible to do 675 HP within a small budget or should I go Big block?





Nope... not with a small budget

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head are portd by MULLER y have this heads 15 years i belive flow is around 325 intake baget mean stock 360 block

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I think 675 can happen with those heads. One thing is, if they have received many freshenings over the years, it's probably time for a good valve-seat tune up by an experienced head porter as some 'bench time is required to make sure they're as good as when they were done. Did you mean Mullen instead of Muller?

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yes in the ex flance mullen and co. 2004 tha don mean the year do you know what what mean

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Re: My w2 Heads [Re: cbarracuda] #582556
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head are portd by MULLER y have this heads 15 years i belive flow is around 325 intake baget mean stock 360 block





You say AROUND... 325.. I'm going to assume you dont
know what they flow... but if they do flow 325
the most you can make would be 660 hp and thats with
a MAX effort, high compression, big roller cam, now
the block... dont think it can handle it... JMO

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Hi Carlos,

As said above my biggest concern would be the block. Stock 340/360 blocks start to have reliability issues when you hit 600HP. Mullen ported heads are great heads, Bob Mullen used to port my Hemi heads, awesome work, but you are shooting for 650 HP and don't already own a new race version of a small block (R3, 340 Resto Block, etc.) you should plan on one as part of your budget. I love small blocks and they can certainly be built to your goals and beyond but it gets EXPENSIVE when you start going over 600 HP. If you decide to go big block you'll probably reach your power level goals for allot less money.


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head are portd by MULLER y have this heads 15 years i belive flow is around 325 intake baget mean stock 360 block





You say AROUND... 325.. I'm going to assume you dont
know what they flow... but if they do flow 325
the most you can make would be 660 hp and thats with
a MAX effort, high compression, big roller cam, now
the block... dont think it can handle it... JMO





That formula for HP per CFM is a little dated as far as max-effort results. We've done a set flowing in the 4-ohs (@ peak lift) that made 940 HP w/ 2carbs, and a set that flow 470 at his lift that make 1050 with a single carb. I'd imagine squeezing more HP from the airflow is a result of better valvetrains that resulted from the improved materials available now vs. then. I suspect you're dead-on on the need for a block upgrade.

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I think I make 550 HP with these W2. Do you guys think it's posible to do 675 HP within a small budget or should I go Big block?




Those look like an old set of pro stock heads, they probably already made 675 on top of a 340 30 years ago.

Like Moeflo said, as time goes on, the hp per cfm formula keeps changing. I seen a 360 c.i. super stock motor make 605hp with 240 cfm, and that was over 15 years ago.

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They really make good power. You're right, those are an old set of pro stock heads. I love small blocks, but I was thinking of going big block because it's cheaper when you get to 675-700 HP but there's more pride when you beat someone with your small block. I'm with a budget, but I will start looking for an R block

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