Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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Has the BB Victor really showed its nails in any combination yet? I don't know anything about intakes either, the victor looks impressive, but in my opinion has got a very small plenum. Maybe they have compromised the height a little ro something, I don't know. But from what I have followed, ti hasn't really been the "best" intake for any combination so far. Not bad, but not way beyond way less impressive looking intakes either.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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Andy, Weiand makes, or made, a B motor Team G intake with 4500 flange. A pal of mine has run one since 1990.
Weiand might have made a B intake with the 4500 flange at one time but they haven't made it for a few years. They do still offer an RB version of the Team G with the Dominator flange but not the B version.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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Summit does list the 724 for sale ($270) but it isn't in inventory and if you order one it might not show up. Mancini Racing lists the same intake for only $220 (a steal of a price) but once again, it isn't in stock and MP shows no inventory on hand.
There is a dealer somewhere back East that has one in stock. Ken's Dodge or something like that. I didn't bother calling them to see if they actually had it or not.
I did order one from Mancini Racing. We'll see how long it takes to show up. I heard thru the grapevine that MP does actually have these things in inventory but they aren't in the system. So hopefully my order will get filled.
BTW - that motor looks great. And thanks for buying the throttle bracket and throttle return kit! I didn't notice them at first since you had painted them engine color.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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Your welcome. got them from Mancini I guess I lucked out. I was on ebay one afternoon and picked up my M1 My engine was painted on the stand. including the brackets. keeps the leaks down. used one of the pioneer cables from autozone that I ordered with a part number from the tech archives, I had to try a few but it all works and I think it is a clean look. I couldnt get the lokar cable to work well, then I did and the cable snapped. Just my opinion but for $20.00 the replacement cable is ten times better than the lokar. Just need to get a better camera cause that is hemi orange but doesnt photo to well.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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Summit does list the 724 for sale ($270) but it isn't in inventory and if you order one it might not show up. Mancini Racing lists the same intake for only $220 (a steal of a price) but once again, it isn't in stock and MP shows no inventory on hand.
I sold one on here last month for $150 that was gasket matched. Where were you? lol I always hit the ads here before I buy something new. Just make sure you read everything in the ad I bought a Holley SD here for $75 that had plenum work and was gasket matched. It was listed with a bunch of body parts.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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I would like to see the difference between the M1 4500 intake verses the new super victor 4500 flange intake. I'm not sure on the height of the super victor but it is suppose to be a new design over the victor.
I'm going to do a dyno test of the M1 4500 vs. the Eddy Super Victor as soon as Edelbrock decides to ship me an intake.
I got my new 724 intake from Mancini yesterday. So even though none were in the system they found one somewhere. It is an old intake, date on the box was 2002! So these things must not sell very well. Don't know why they wouldn't sell, they look great and I bet they make good power.
This intake is going on a stock stroke 400 motor that makes a little over 600 hp. It has Peformer RPM heads so the M1 intake should be a perfect match.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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This 400 motor is street driven but it isn't a daily driver, more like a weekend toy. Bottom end is okay but it isn't a tow truck motor. The heads were ported by Dwayne and it has a 250 duration roller cam in it. Here is a picture with the carb installed.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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Here is a side by side shot. Notice the big difference in plenum size as well as runner length between the Victor and the M1.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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03/12/09 12:24 AM
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I just stumbled on this old thread Andy and was wondering if you had some info on the 4500 intake??? I have a 451 with edelbrock heads and i am wondering if i should go the dominator route???? TBF
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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My 451 used the Mopar M1 for the 4150 base carb, and I ran a 1" open spacer on it, topped with a 1,000cfm Holley HP carb. I thought it ran very good, but have no other intakes to compare to on the same engine. It did fit under the power bulge hood if the '71 Charger.
I bought an Indy -? (single plane 4150 carb, "b" block) intake and it looks only slightly taller than the M1 without the spacer, and shorter than the M1 with the 1" spacer, but it is setup for the MW ports. The Indy has the injestion bosses cast in the intake, and I may go fuel injection in the future
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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Just checked the number out of curiosity. If anyone needs one of these intakes, there are two of them in stock at Chrysler's Warren depot. Any dealer can get it.
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
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Thanks Zip... I have a 451 that I will be using a street dominator on and I was wondering if I should consider using a 4500 series dominator carb as well...... I am a little afraid of the huge plenum volume killing my low end torque with the MP manifold and I really liked the setup that Fast68 had where he welded a 4500 flange to the street dom manifold. It looks awesome and it has the room as the manifold is cast for a spreadbore carb so there is quite a bit of extra meat to grind/blend. I know they sell adapters but that does not help the hood clearance issue.
I have an 83 Cordoba and I am trying to set it up so it runs about 7.50 in the 1/8th and 11.70 in the 1/4....... 451 has hyd roller cam and edelbrock heads. Does anybody else think this intake work is awesome?? Fast is the man! TBF
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
[Re: tpabayflyer]
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I wonder how much gain I could expect using a 1050 Dom instead of a 950HP??? It seems that a good running big block always seems to have an advantage when running a dominator. I plan around 520Hp/580TQ 10.7-1 C/R...... Anybody know where that flange came from or is it a milled down adapter of some sort??? TBF
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Re: Why don't more people run the P4529724 intake?
[Re: tpabayflyer]
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I can tell you a decent built 451 will eat up a fair amount of plenum volume, but since it's relative to runner design/runner length and the rest of the build it's going to be hard to predict exactly how it will act.
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