Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Extensive thread of the Butterfy on Class Racer under Original Hemi Dart Info about 3 weeks ago. Jason Oldfield has some good stuff.
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Call Bruce Meihls at Fast Racing in Groveport OH for more history. As I recall, the Fink Bros raced this car as a SS/EA Max Wedge car with steel front end under Rod Shop paint. In about 82 or so, Bruce and Larry converted the car to a Hemi SS/BA car with aluminum front end and doors. I also remember Bruce talking about finding a very rare plexiglass rear window and it seems like an aluminum trunk lid (not too sure on that one). Mark
I spoke to Carrol Fink last week. When he drove it, it was with the steel front end. He said he did not know what happend to it as it was owned by Gil Kirk. Bortman also drove it some.
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Dick said the brake drums were fiberglass, not wood. He deferred to Ted on the rest of it, so hopefully he will pop in to fill us in on the rest.
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Well, neither Dick or Ted are interested ini posting directly on here, so I called Ted to get the story. I had to call Stewart P. to get his number, and Stewart thought the brake drums were wood, so maybe I confused his story with what Dick told me. I took some notes and will try to get it exactly per Ted. He had to make it short to take his wife to the doctor's office. I'll try back later to get the rest of the story.
Per Ted:
The car was his wife's car, a 6 cylinder 330, 1964 Dodge. They built the car in two weeks. It had the aluminum front end, NOT steel. He wasn't sure where the parts came from, but thought it was the DC warehouse.
Dick broke his car, and he met Dick at a race on the east coast. He sold the car after the finals, the engine went one way and the car another. He said the car was sold to someone in Dayton, Ohio, then the Rod Shop got it later and Dave Boertman drove it.
Ted said the fiberglass drums were on the D-Dart he had, and not on the Hemi car. He mentioned that Rick Johnson thought it was an original '64 Hemi car when he bought it because it had many of the original parts on it.
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Do you know who owned the car in this pic? I see the "Rod Shop" has been removed. When Bud & Dewey Cook bought the school bus the "Rod Shop" was taken off before they picked it up. It only had the "Dodge" left on the side.
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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The season before Rod Shop Sold the car Bruce built a hemi out of the many parts in the shop. Christian prepped a trans and built a converter. it was all dropped in the 64'. The car was painted solid blue (No flag stripes) and we put a gold rod shop door decal along the bottom of the doors. As I remember that is the way it was sold (less door decals) the car's quickest pass that summer was 9.99. We had to remove the front bumper, door panels and a few other things to get the 9.99. Complete it would only go the best of 10.02 Bruce was hungry for a 9. He did the driving. Shortly after that it was sold by Gil and the Shop closed it's doors as well. Sad time for all of us at the time.
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Well, neither Dick or Ted are interested ini posting directly on here, so I called Ted to get the story. I had to call Stewart P. to get his number, and Stewart thought the brake drums were wood, so maybe I confused his story with what Dick told me. I took some notes and will try to get it exactly per Ted. He had to make it short to take his wife to the doctor's office. I'll try back later to get the rest of the story.
Per Ted:
The car was his wife's car, a 6 cylinder 330, 1964 Dodge. They built the car in two weeks. It had the aluminum front end, NOT steel. He wasn't sure where the parts came from, but thought it was the DC warehouse.
Dick broke his car, and he met Dick at a race on the east coast. He sold the car after the finals, the engine went one way and the car another. He said the car was sold to someone in Dayton, Ohio, then the Rod Shop got it later and Dave Boertman drove it.
Ted said the fiberglass drums were on the D-Dart he had, and not on the Hemi car. He mentioned that Rick Johnson thought it was an original '64 Hemi car when he bought it because it had many of the original parts on it.
Fiberglass brake drums --- I just went out and checked the D/Dart. It's got steel drums on it now. Ted must have taken them off back in the 60's before he sold it.
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Evidently there never were any wooden brake drums per Oldfield and Spehar. Another funny thing Dick told me about the original Missile was the use of magnesium torsion bars (non-functional). They just sat the front end on the rubber snubbers. I got the impression that even at the beginning, Pro Stock wasn't too stock. That was quite a thing to get to talk to Dick at Carlisle for a few hours. Thanks to Stewart P. and Hemi Fred for connecting me with the big boys. It was kind of funny when we walked up to the MP trailer at Carlisle and David Hakim just about jumped off the trailer when he saw Dick walk up. It would be good to get all the war stories written down and published in a book from these guys.
Floyd Lippencott IV
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Re: Iron Butterfly info?
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Rick Johnson has owned and raced it since mid 80s. Probably the only aluminum Dodge running NHRA.
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