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Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake #571563
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Who is running a non-steel stator in their convertor with a trans-brake? How is it holding up?

I have two convertors:
1) Turbo Action 10" 3800 Stall
2) Dynamic 9.5" 4500 Stall

I bought a trans-brake last year, but have not installed it yet. Too worried about damaging the convertor and tearing up parts, so I have just kept foot braking it. I know the convertor companies recommend a steel stator in a trans-brake application, but would like to hear some real world experience on this.

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: 506RR] #571564
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when my trans was being serviced last i was shown an alloy stator in a transbrake trans. i don't know what it looked like when it was new but when compared to my steel stator, my steel unit looked like new & the alloy looked like it had pitting on it.

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I'm running one, holds up fine.

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: 540dust] #571566
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Who has a story of hurting their convertor doing this? How much HP and how many passes before it let go?

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: 506RR] #571567
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A couple of years ago,I asked Paul at Turbo Action (through Tony aka Quicktree) about using my J converter with a brake.He checked the serial number on it and said "you have a model with an aluminum stator,absolutely do not use it with a brake"
So from the man himself,no.

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #571568
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There has to be more than one person doing this. Anybody else??

Thanks for all replies so far. I know what the convertor manufacturers say, I am just wanting to know who is doing it, and how long their convertor has lasted.

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #571569
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A couple of years ago,I asked Paul at Turbo Action (through Tony aka Quicktree) about using my J converter with a brake.He checked the serial number on it and said "you have a model with an aluminum stator,absolutely do not use it with a brake"
So from the man himself,no.




thats kinda funny when I ordered my converter from Paul him self he asked why I wanted a steel stator said it wasn't needed for a brake but I ordered it anyway.


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Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: dusturbd340W5] #571570
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A couple of years ago,I asked Paul at Turbo Action (through Tony aka Quicktree) about using my J converter with a brake.He checked the serial number on it and said "you have a model with an aluminum stator,absolutely do not use it with a brake"
So from the man himself,no.




thats kinda funny when I ordered my converter from Paul him self he asked why I wanted a steel stator said it wasn't needed for a brake but I ordered it anyway.


Kind'a gives a person somthing to ponder,,,same person,,two answers.


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Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: dartman366] #571571
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A couple of years ago,I asked Paul at Turbo Action (through Tony aka Quicktree) about using my J converter with a brake.He checked the serial number on it and said "you have a model with an aluminum stator,absolutely do not use it with a brake"
So from the man himself,no.




thats kinda funny when I ordered my converter from Paul him self he asked why I wanted a steel stator said it wasn't needed for a brake but I ordered it anyway.


Kind'a gives a person somthing to ponder,,,same person,,two answers.




totally depends on the hp/torque and combo. if I were going to use a tbrake I would order the steel stator just to be on the safe side like Woody did. even though it may not need it. nice try though.

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: Quicktree] #571572
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No idea what stator is in my T/A conv... it has
about 3000+ trans brake passes on it

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Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #571573
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A couple of years ago,I asked Paul at Turbo Action (through Tony aka Quicktree) about using my J converter with a brake.He checked the serial number on it and said "you have a model with an aluminum stator,absolutely do not use it with a brake"
So from the man himself,no.




hows that converter working for you? haven't talked in a while. didn't you pick up a tenth or so? can't remember.

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: Quicktree] #571574
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Hi Tony!,
It has been a while,the old J is still holding up well!
The Challenger has been through a lot of changes over the last couple years,I don't know where it was at when I talked to you!
I used to run a 440 and ran 10.80's or so,last year I put a stroker smallblock in it.So far, 10.21@ 132.We have a little tuning to go yet.

The old J converter and 440 are going into the new car I'm putting together for my wife.
Thanks for asking!
Keith

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Hi Tony!,
It has been a while,the old J is still holding up well!
The Challenger has been through a lot of changes over the last couple years,I don't know where it was at when I talked to you!
I used to run a 440 and ran 10.80's or so,last year I put a stroker smallblock in it.So far, 10.21@ 132.We have a little tuning to go yet.

The old J converter and 440 are going into the new car I'm putting together for my wife.
Thanks for asking!
Keith




I was thinking of somebody else. I just checked for you I believe. my memory sucks

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: Quicktree] #571576
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over 300 9 sec passes on my J conv.

Paul also to me NO for the aluminum when I had it restalled, no issues so far...I went with aluminum again.

I currently run a PTC though...the J is a spare now.

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I have used two different convertors on a torqueflite using a brake, and two different glide convertors with a brake. All have had aluminum stators. I had one stator failure that was an infant mortality (broke on the third pass)in the first convertor I used with a brake and a 727, it was a defect and was replaced free by Coan. I have not had a problem with a stator since that issue in 1993. When I went to a brake I was told the "J" convertor was too weak, not because the stator was aluminum though. Most everyone I know racing are using aluminum stators.

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Here is the one I've been using the last couple of years.

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Another.

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ss ah hemi cars all use alum stators from ati, best convertors around,,, 90% of guys use t-brake

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Great info guys. Thank you for all of the replies!

If mine breaks using an aluminum stator, I will report back in and let you guys know.

Re: Aluminum Stator Convertor and Transbrake [Re: 506RR] #571582
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Great info guys. Thank you for all of the replies!

If mine breaks using an aluminum stator, I will report back in and let you guys know.







If it breaks, it will most likely be because it rolled a sprag. That's what usually breaks them. But since the sprags have become more reliable, it doesn't happen as often.

Since I use a spragless converter, I don't even worry about it.


Chris..

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Here is the one I've been using the last couple of years.




That's an all aluminum Chance? Not many on this board will to spend 5 grand on a converter. BTW that's the same one we finished the year with.

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Only the drive cover is aluminum, it was expensive but a fraction of 5g's. If you're trying to win back some money, the right convertor is extremely important. It paid for itself the first season.

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Only the drive cover is aluminum, it was expensive but a fraction of 5g's. If you're trying to win back some money, the right convertor is extremely important. It paid for itself the first season.




Our last one was all aluminum(5 g's). We have one like you do as well(about 2800 if I remember correctly). Not sure how much ET difference there was between the two. There is more aluminum in the trans fluid when we change it in the all aluminum one. We're still not exactly sure what that means. Our deal is about 2500 HP/glide.

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I sent a custom 8" Turbo Action in too PTC for a check up. They told me it had a aluminum stator, and recommended I switched to a billet stator for various reasons, a transbrake was one of them.. They said the converter looked like new...the converter was made in 1998..I sold it to SuperStockRacer here a few years ago..



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