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B-Body Suspension #569751 01/02/10 12:17 PM 01/02/10 12:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA R roy2345 OP enthusiast
roy2345 OP enthusiast R Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA	I had my Satellite(GTX Clone) up to about 140 mph yday. I noticed that the car was rolling lft to rght a little. I have the original shocks from 40 years ago on thefront and some new Monroe shocks on the rear. I have a front sway bar to install but have not as of yet. Do I need a rear sway bar as well? And do I ned to replace all shocks with KYB's? I replaced torsion bars last year to handle the front end weight of the 440 but didnt change shocks. What can help keep this car on the road and improve handling without breaking the bank? 5705537-parade.jpg (145 downloads)

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569752 01/02/10 12:25 PM 01/02/10 12:25 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Were you at the drag strip or a closed race course? If so, you should have your entire suspension updated if you're going to be racing. If not, you can fix your problem by not going 140 mph. Seriously, If you're going that fast public Highways, just stop! LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: StealthWedge67] #569753 01/02/10 01:07 PM 01/02/10 01:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA R roy2345 OP enthusiast
roy2345 OP enthusiast R Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA	Nah I was at a race trac strip. But even regular driving I would like a more modern ride.

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569754 01/02/10 01:37 PM 01/02/10 01:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,645 San Jose,CA migsBIG YouTube is my go-to news source
migsBIG YouTube is my go-to news source Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,645 San Jose,CA	You were going 140mph on 40 year old shock and suspension.... Step up and get some new parts. KYB's at least all the way around, and swaybar kits are as cheap as $99 now. How much caster is set up on the front end? Are your lca bushing worn? steering box a bit loose? Seriously, look into some upgrade. If not for safety, you would enjoy the better handeling car. [IMG]http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p265/migsbig/Hippo_skull_dark-1.jpg[/IMG]

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569755 01/02/10 02:15 PM 01/02/10 02:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,516 Santa Cruz, California L Lefty master
Lefty master L Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,516 Santa Cruz, California	Quote: I had my Satellite(GTX Clone) up to about 140 mph yday. I noticed that the car was rolling lft to rght a little. I have the original shocks from 40 years ago on thefront and some new Monroe shocks on the rear. I have a front sway bar to install but have not as of yet. Do I need a rear sway bar as well? And do I ned to replace all shocks with KYB's? I replaced torsion bars last year to handle the front end weight of the 440 but didnt change shocks. What can help keep this car on the road and improve handling without breaking the bank? You need ALL the above if you plan any more 140 mph runs. You are one small stroke of bad luck from destroying that nice car and maybe yourself. Things that you can recover from at 50 mph are major accidents above 80 mph. The rolling left to right a little will be fixed with a front sway bar and shocks that aren't 35 years beyond replacement time. If the front suspension wear items are as old as the shocks they need replacement also.

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569756 01/02/10 03:32 PM 01/02/10 03:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA R roy2345 OP enthusiast
roy2345 OP enthusiast R Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA	The front end was rebuilt with a front end rebuild kit from Just suspension. New bushings,torsion bars etc.My friend says he can adjust my gear box a little and tighten that up. I just didnt put new Shocks on the front. I did on the rear cause I changed the rear ends. But they are just some regular Monroe nothing special. I plan to add a spring or 2 in the leafs in the rear, install front sway bar and get a rear sway bar. Will this allow me to obtain my goal?

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569757 01/02/10 03:52 PM 01/02/10 03:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: Nah I was at a race trac strip. But even regular driving I would like a more modern ride. You were doing 140 mph at the drag strip? That car is definitely quick to be going through the traps like that.

Re: B-Body Suspension DELETED [Re: roy2345] #569758 01/02/10 03:52 PM 01/02/10 03:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Post deleted by GEnsrud Last edited by GEnsrud; 01/02/10 04:22 PM. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: Lefty] #569759 01/02/10 03:58 PM 01/02/10 03:58 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,603 germany 440sat72 top fuel
440sat72 top fuel Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,603 germany	Looks like its Time for a Complete Suspension rebuild kit like offered from just suspension or other vendors. And maybe you should take a look at the brakes, too if you havent already. My car

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: 440sat72] #569760 01/02/10 04:50 PM 01/02/10 04:50 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 192 Georgia,Douglasville streaker member
streaker member Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 192 Georgia,Douglasville	Don't forget Georgia's new super speeder law went into effect Jan. 1. I said Don't look Ethel, It was too late

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: StealthWedge67] #569761 01/02/10 05:53 PM 01/02/10 05:53 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA R roy2345 OP enthusiast
roy2345 OP enthusiast R Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA	Look dude, I'm not stupid and don't attack my persona when you know nothing about me. Where I was yesterday was the country. My buddy has a race track on his 350+ acres. Part of that is a straight shot almost like a runway. All of us wanna be racers go down there and run our cars however we want for $10. So talk what you know not what u think!!!

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569762 01/02/10 06:04 PM 01/02/10 06:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,768 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,768 A collage of whims	At those speeds, air under the car is a factor. I'd be thinking about a front air dam, too, and running the ride height at about 5 degrees nose down. As the previous posts have recommended, good shocks, and as much positive caster as you can put in it. 5706383-70wagon.jpg (109 downloads)

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: topside] #569763 01/02/10 06:26 PM 01/02/10 06:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: At those speeds, air under the car is a factor. I'd be thinking about a front air dam, too, and running the ride height at about 5 degrees nose down. As the previous posts have recommended, good shocks, and as much positive caster as you can put in it. Some float at 140 mph doesn't sound that bad. I bet the aero is pushing the front end up a bunch. Then combine that with old front shocks and maybe? not much caster.

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569764 01/02/10 06:29 PM 01/02/10 06:29 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Quote: Look dude, I'm not stupid and don't attack my persona when you know nothing about me. Where I was yesterday was the country. My buddy has a race track on his 350+ acres. Part of that is a straight shot almost like a runway. All of us wanna be racers go down there and run our cars however we want for $10. So talk what you know not what u think!!! Fair enough... I retract my post. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: StealthWedge67] #569765 01/02/10 08:19 PM 01/02/10 08:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 196 out front J jerrya Comin to a Labor Day Telethon
jerrya Comin to a Labor Day Telethon J Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 196 out front	Is the speedometer correct? Just kidding dude... Man does not plan to fail... he fails to plan

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: jerrya] #569766 01/02/10 09:44 PM 01/02/10 09:44 PM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA R roy2345 OP enthusiast
roy2345 OP enthusiast R Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 324 GA	Ok guys all of you have indicated on what I need to do. I'm on it next week!!! I talked with a guy today that has 727 trannys with overdrive. Opinions on that? Sorry I'm off topic....

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: jerrya] #569767 01/02/10 09:46 PM 01/02/10 09:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California D DennisH Vacation
DennisH Vacation D Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,278 San Jose, California	The Coronet R/T was leaving the ground at about 130. Have not done it since.

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569768 01/03/10 02:11 AM 01/03/10 02:11 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,468 So Cal	Quote: Ok guys all of you have indicated on what I need to do. I'm on it next week!!! I talked with a guy today that has 727 trannys with overdrive. Opinions on that? Sorry I'm off topic.... There's a guy in our club with a 69 ABS plastic spoiler from a 69 Camaro on his 69 Road Runner. Actually look pretty subtle and most people don't reconize it as a Camaro piece. It does't stick down nearly as much as the one topside posted, but it's off the shelf, not too expensive, and because it ABS plastic it will give if you get it caught on something.

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: autoxcuda] #569769 01/03/10 04:39 AM 01/03/10 04:39 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,122 Auburn WA Dave_J master
Dave_J master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,122 Auburn WA	There are many things that will make the car drift side to side. Uneven Air pressure in the tires is one. I do hope your tires are V rated or higher. Retired, US ARMY 1973-1994 ASE mechanic, Electrical 1994-1997 Retired GTE/VERIZON/FRONTIER 1997-2015 Posting cheap tech help (CRAP) here since Nov 97, 1000's of posts, some may be good. 03 Suzuki Burgman 650(Burger King) Scooter 65 Formula S Cuda 78 Little Red Express Truck 98 Buick Regal (wifes car)

Re: B-Body Suspension [Re: roy2345] #569770 01/03/10 09:44 AM 01/03/10 09:44 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada Dodgem master
Dodgem master Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,746 Ontario, Canada	Quote: Ok guys all of you have indicated on what I need to do. I'm on it next week!!! I talked with a guy today that has 727 trannys with overdrive. Opinions on that? Sorry I'm off topic.... I would seriously consider one of these. http://www.gearvendors.com/ Bolts right on shorten your drive shaft (or have new made) and you can lower you gear and still have more top end. Does not take the power a big overdrive unit takes to drive nor does it have the failour issues! Stock speedos are often off 15 MPH at that speed?? what is your tire size, rear gear, transmission, Torque converter and rpm you hit!

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