I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened belts
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what you read. All troubleshooting guides talks about when you ARE NOT able to crank engine even with fastened seatbelts, but no one talks about what is wrong if I'm able to crank the engine with unfastened seatbelts.
what could it be wrong ?
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened b
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EDIT:Ok he's serious... I'll retract my smart azz comment. Still don't understand why anyone would want that system to function Get the 12v tester out and start at one end of the wiring and work to the other.
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened b
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74 Charger
I do care because:
-No one thief will fasten the seatbelt and never wonder what does happen.
-I like to have everything working as must be.
-I usually fights with passengers ( usually women ) to carry on fastened seatbelts, so CAR WON'T START UNTILL FASTEN... If she wants to ride, has to fasten it.
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened b
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I already have lot of info that I already posted on 3rd gen charger website by myself... and maybe there some language stuff that I'm not getting.
Just added on to my car because my car assemblied in Venezuela didn't came with that stuff. Was working at first instance but not anymore
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened belts
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Off the top of my head; It may depend on the build date. The seatbelt interlock was immediately unpopular, and Ma discontinued the feature. Yours may be just fine as it is... (edit) Just read your reply. Nevermind. Export and SoAm market could have been a whole nother ball of wax.
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened belts
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Some ramblings from the past.
1 Be a man in your own car. If passengers won't buckle up, then don't start the car.
2 If you've ever suffered through a carjacking, you'll wish you COULD start the car in a hurry
3 There are much better anti-theft measures, namely, a hidden switch that breaks the wiring or shuts off the fuel pump
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened b
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Agree with above... Not sure on a '74, but there "may" be a seat weight-sensor that consists of a wire stretched across the underside of each front seat. It may be broken or the sensor might be broken. There is also a sensor in the seat-belt connector. It must be linked to a starter interlock. Do you have the 1974 Dodge Chassis Service Manual? There should be an electrical troubleshooting section.
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened b
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some replies to your comments: SoAm ( at least Venezuelan ) cars didn't have the interlock system... I just got from USA cars since I'm "cloning" for a complete 74 USA car with all real stuff, nothing bypassed. So, to your thoughts, nothing is bypassed, cut or modified simplye because just recently I made the installation and worked at first instance. Simply suddenly one day stop to work like it should be. The fact you don't like interlock doesn't mean I can get it working as must be I made all testing explained on FSM manual ( I got emailed that section ) and everything takes me to a damaged control unit, but just partially because the logical circuit what makes work the warning signals is working like a clock, buzzing/lighting when I try to crank and when I gear. Just that shouldn't crank, but is cranking. I have been analizing the printed board inside interlock and does look could it be a diode or transistor went bad. There is a BIG transistor what links the starter circuit. Have to seartch further thought. I say the logical circuit, including sensors, is working perfect simply by the fact all sensors are sensing... seats, buckles, making work the light and buzzer on the right moments. BTW what I have experienced with interlock system and if everything was good in the fisrt, as far seats sensors doesn't send signal, you can crank engine, so for a fast start up, simply start before sit
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened b
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I have known more in 75 than in 74 for a late 74 control unit I have an orange box, what is supposelly is a canadian unit and is not interlocked, but works the advertising functions. already mounted and works as stated just for buzzer and lights advertising signals PN 3501371 My conclusion about is a canadian unit was simply because I got the rallye harness from a Canadian Guy on ebay ( about 4 years ago ) with the control box attached on Mopar parts catalog this orange unit is stated like to AUTO and also MANUAL cars after 2-01-74 In_The_Pink...the one you grabbed me with PN 3746849 is labeled to Manual cars ( excepy C bodies ) from 10-28-73 to 4-01-74 the is the actually one I have with interlock function apparently damaged: this are two one ebay right now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AMC-SEAT-...5QQcmdZViewItemhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NOS-MoPar...9QQcmdZViewItemthe AMC one ( that was the reason I made a thread about earlier ) carries the manual boxes color to Mopars, but seller doesn't have specs for what cars was used/designed
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened b
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Here's the one I grabbed: Hard to read as the ink stamp is faded, but it's part number 3746849, date code 1334, and the door sticker on the car it was removed from had a date of 5-74: I'm 99% sure the car was an automatic and it was definitely a slant six. on Some people don't understand why others like to keep things the way the factory made it, or even just use factory items that were never on their vehicles. If it's a palin jane Belvedere and someone wants to clone it into a Hemi GTX, people start and saying what a great idea it is. When someone wants to add some obscure factory equipment that isn't flashy, sexy or flavor-of-the-month, they don't understand . isn't for everyone- some people like obscure and unique. I'll help you all I can Nacho, cuz this is the type of thing I enjoy reading about and watching others do. Keep plugging away and you'll get it figured out eventually. Someone might even learn a thing or two reading about what you find. off
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Re: I'm able to crank the engine even with unfastened b
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LOL... thanks for you support!!!
/6 with auto and white box ? maybe somebody simply fit that one as working replacement ?
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