Foot brake or flash the converter?
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12/29/09 03:01 AM
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I was talking to a fellow dragracer at our club Christmas dinner a couple of weeks ago & he said I should be flashing the converter rather than foot braking on the start, what is your opinion? My present combo is bog stock 383 Barracuda, 1700kg with less than factory compression (8.2:1) at present, auto, 3.91 gears & brand new Hoosier 275x50x15 quicktimes. For consistancy I always run with an empty boot & a full tank We only race on crap surfaces (roads & airports) & don't get many 60' & 1/8 times but I still want to go faster. My best 60' to date is a 2.172 (9.311@75.31 & 14.466@94.78) My best 1/8 to date is a 9.014 (with no 60' or MPH recorded) These times were footbraking the car to 1700 RPM then steadily pushing the gas to the floor. The car will stall to 2600 RPM on the brakes every time tested. I have tried starting at an idle & flashing the converter a couple of times but went up in smoke (although this was with my old Hoosiers) Any tips or hints on launching would be greatly appreciated, Cheers
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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12/29/09 11:01 AM
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1st what's an "empty boot"
That would be an empty trunk
I agree, find what works best for your car. I had someone tell me the same thing once and it made no difference in my ET. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif)
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: nz383man]
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12/29/09 11:08 AM
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Not saying that this will work for you BUT if I leave at low rpm 1800 or so and hit the gas it will blow the tires off but if I go up onto the converter it will plant the tires.... in your case its all trial and error for the best launch ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif)
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: WILD BILL]
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12/29/09 11:46 AM
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1st what's an "empty boot"
That would be an empty trunk
I agree, find what works best for your car. I had someone tell me the same thing once and it made no difference in my ET.
.........Boot is an english term for a trunk...........the gentleman is from New Zealand, hence the english influence. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs.gif)
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: savoyracer]
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12/29/09 12:09 PM
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.........Boot is an english term for a trunk...........the gentleman is from New Zealand, hence the english influence.
So do the girls there have "loot in their boot" instead of "junk in the trunk"? Sorry,I couldn't resist. I change launch rpm while footbraking to adjust my reaction times. From 1500 to 2200 makes little difference in e.t. but it helps r.t.,for what it's worth. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wave.gif)
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: Dunnuck Racing]
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12/29/09 12:24 PM
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So do the girls there have "loot in their boot" instead of "junk in the trunk"? Sorry,I couldn't resist.
I'll have to use that one!
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: roadhazard]
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12/29/09 02:16 PM
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Cheers guys, sorry about my poor "English" ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh2.gif) There are a few good points here, I'll get out & do more "testing" As for Loot in the boot or junk in the trunk, any more than 2 hands full is too much ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh2.gif) ( . )( . ) on the other hand are not limited in size ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif)
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: nz383man]
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12/29/09 02:33 PM
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My cars have always seemed to repeat the best when I was up against the converter.
I tried flashing it a few times and it didn't work good but that probably depends on the converter and chassis setup.
67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: HemiDave]
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12/30/09 02:55 AM
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Nice car! And nice view at the track! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbs.gif)
Dave
Cheers for that Dave & here is another killer veiw from the track.
![](http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/383man_70/KevinMcLeancountingdowntheyellowlig.jpg)
and a couple of Aussie Valiants, over 300HP (factory)from a 265ci 6!
![](http://i611.photobucket.com/albums/tt196/383man_70/PACERVERSUSE49CHARGER1.jpg)
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Re: Foot brake or flash the converter?
[Re: nz383man]
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12/30/09 05:35 AM
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![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eeek.gif)
Wow!!
But I don't see ANY sheep! ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif)
Dave
You didn't look hard enough Dave. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh2.gif)
great pictures,thanks!
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